I think I know what’s going on at TWC.
If I’m right, it’s going to get a lot worse before the end of October.
Owning a webcomic rating site AND a webcomic hosting site is pretty damned unethical.
If TGW gets kicked out of the top 100 in just four months (After spending almost four years in the top 10),
I’m just going to remove it from TWC entirely.
It doesn’t have to be unethical. That’s up to the owners. However,
given what we have seen over the last several months though, it would
appear that those comics hosted by TWC are getting an exorbitant
number of “votes” that were never actually cast by real viewers. So,
yeah, TWC has been losing credibility for the last several months already.
This apparent lapse in ethics is merely another bit of evidence.
It is certainly unethical. It’s as if Consumer Reports began manufacturing cars and within
three months their products became the top-rated vehicles on Consumer Reports.
It used to be that TGW would swap places often with other webcomics, now other
webcomics are jumping ahead by 5-700 votes in just a few hours and TGW never
gets near them again.
PC –
All I’m saying is that it doesn’t HAVE TO be unethical, but
that requires maintaining strictly held beliefs by the owners.
From what we have seen, the owners of TWC do not hold to
such “antiquated” beliefs.
So, yeah, these owners are unethical, but they are choosing
to be such.
Yarp. What’s in the top 10 now is a buncha shit that spent years in the sub-100’s. It was bad
enough when they were merely selling votes. Now, they’re approaching credibility levels of kotaku,
IGN, and rotten tomatoes. 404.
HOboy, now Missy is involved? Wow, when this
assclown steps in it, it’s with both bare feet!
She’s been friendly when she can, and hell on
earth when she can’t. How many wanna bet
Duncan is going to BEG to join the Legion?
Mala is very well trained, maybe 100 lbs, and
very good at close combat. Ishmael is at least
6 FT, I’d say 210-220 lbs, and is badly dehydrated
to start with. We don’t know his training level
or skill level, other than it’s close to Mala’s. It’ll
make a good show, but I think she will wear him
down until he passes out or just gives up. Then
the offer and a chance to walk away from the
stupidity and join the winning team.
Look at panel six. They’re close to the same size and weight.
About 5’6″, 100-110 lbs.
1.7 Meters, 50 Kilograms.
TGW-1294, that’s his wife and she’s barely taller than Teresa, wearing 3″ heels.
Ah, perspective I guess, I thought he was taller.
Either way He’s spent how ever long with the
rest of them, No portable water, I doubt much
food, and I doubt he spends as much time
training as Mala has, since she’s been doing
it since she was 6. She will outlast him, at
least a fair margin. Hell, even in my youth,
she’d embarrass the cocky 18 y/o I was!
I was 5’8″, 175 at 18, Ishmael is at least that.
My upper body was heavier than his is now,
which slowed me down quite a bit.
I had guessed as much, although it also
makes me think Ishmael isn’t part of the
extremists, just a soldier that got dragged
in, acting the part to protect his wife.
a ‘did you know’..
in the muslim faith, a “true name” is chosen..
and used only around the faithful…
or in some cases to let the world know you have
chosen alla… IE: Cassius Clay = Muhammad Ali.
Yeah, I can’t even begin to guess which way this is going
to go now. We’ve got the “sergeant” guilty of stolen valor,
but in attempting to expose him, we also now have Cissy
impersonating a naval lieutenant. Yes, she “was” a US Navy
Lieutenant, but she was never an Imperial Navy Lieutenant.
Gonna get real interesting. And, as usual, the cat sayeth
nothing.
Well, even here in the U.S. (aka the land of 10,000 laws) it’s not illegal
to impersonate a service member. The Stolen Valor Acts make it a crime
to fraudulently claim certain military awards. The awards that will get
in trouble for claiming are: CMH, DSC, Navy Cross, Air Force Cross, Silver
Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, Combat Action Ribbon, Combat
Infantryman’s Badge, Combat Action Badge, Combat Medic Badge,
and Combat Action Medal.
Note: The Stolen Valor Act of 2005 was ruled unconstitutional In 2012 on
1st Amendment grounds. A new version was passed in 2013. I could not
find anything about it being challenged.
Sorry, Mr Stanley but it is NOT illegal in the U.S. simply to claim to have
been in service. According to this article: https://www.coalitionbrewing.com/is-it-against-the-law-to-pretend-you-were-in-the-military/
“No, pretending to have served in the military is generally not against the
law in the United States. However, it is inadvisable because it is a form of
identity theft and could be considered fraud. It is also considered
extremely disrespectful by many veterans and people who have lost
loved ones in service.”
“impersonating a US military member is a crime when one acts or
pretends to act as a US military member and wears any type of
‘military uniform, insignia, or identification document’.”
Stupid Muscle Guy is not in uniform so even in the U.S. he has NOT
committed a crime. I very much doubt the Empire has a more
restrictive system than the U.S. Sorry man but those are the facts.
ok,, give me “coalitionbrewing” homesite.! all i get is
beer sites… i want their legal backing to the claim..
i want to know how “impersonating’ which means
pretending to be.” is different,. from them..
the 6 or more sites i go to all say “Illegal”…
It was a joke. True blue Trekkers’ ears will perk up at the term “fundoscopic
examination”. In Trek IV McCoy advises some 20th century doctors that
fundoscopic examination would be inconclusive. Actually all fundoscopic
examination is is a really thorough eye exam. When the study people told
me I had to get the exam that scene popped up in my mind immediately.
Yeah I see the same, but she could have buried the knife
and gutted him, looks like just another painful slash.
By my count that’s 3 small ones on her, 5 on him.
Yeah, it’s not obvious, is it? I should have used a closer view at a different angle.
They’re punching each other with their left hands, Mala is blocking his knife hand with hers.
At this point, neither actually wants to kill each other.
That’s why he’s bending over and she’s falling to her left, they both connected hard.
Yeah from this angle it looked like the tip was running across his stomach.
Don’t worry about it, lord knows how often I miss the obvious, I was tinkering
with (funny enough) Tinker CAD and when I thought I was done and ran a
test print, the entire back wall was missing! by the way, does anyone want
a rat house that can double as a bright yellow wig?
Technically, she’s not in uniform, but I agree, they should have
at least stopped and stood at attention and saluted. However,
it was a tense situation and Duncan is the type to take an
unfair advantage at that moment, like trying to run or punching
someone to get clear. That would be like expecting the men in
a trench to announce the CO during combat. Not a good thing.
Sorry, man, but they’re all in doors and nobody is in uniform. The only
time I ever saluted in doors was when I was reporting to my Commander
and then the salute was accompanied by “Sgt (or Ssgt) Mullins reporting
as ordered, Sir!”. Maybe the other services do it differently.
Mistrial did build the navy from ground up, so I have to wonder
what rules she kept and which she changed. I just know when
ever my father started in with his DI voice, my mother would
interrupt him, heh.
I did get enough to respect the uniform and what it means, anyway
Well, her idea that all officers would be called “Sir” died quickly when everyone kept calling her “Ma’am”.
She and Teresa both wanted female Marines. Sgt Birov and Walker gave them copies of Tom Kratman’s
“Amazon Legion” and said “Come back after you’ve read it”. (Great book, by the way.)
Then they pointed out that the Imperial Marines were getting more male recruits than they could train,
why complicate things?
And that all support tasks were done by the Imperial Navy, which was (slightly) majority female.
The Imperial Marines have never been “Trial and error” where it wasn’t necessary.
Indoors, when an officer walks in you stand at attention but don’t salute. You salute officers outdoors,
with an exception for when snipers might be watching for you to identify an officer. If you are in a group outdoors
and an officer approaches, the one in charge of the group should salute for the whole group – the officer
does not want to be returning salutes to each of you!
Indoors, you only salute when reporting to the officer.
#30 with 103 votes, right now. when i voted at 6am your time,
it was @49 with 23 votes.. (i can vote 3 devices,)(3 different IPN)
and my roommate as my witness,, it was still 23, thirty min later…
BUT the other comic i vote for, updated right away… o.0
5:30 PM west coast time. #23. I’ve found that they’ve got me pegged
at once per day per machine. Unless – If I somehow didn’t vote the
previous day, and it’s before 5 PM, I can vote, and vote again at 5 PM,
regardless if that is in as low as only 2 hours. It’s the same schedule for
both my home computer and my work computer.
Cool! Might save you some time, maybe?
I see that WordPress uses the PHP type
of coding, I was like WTH?!? New to me.
Hmmm… I wonder if there’s freebie coder
for that? http://www.filehippo.com here I come!
Right now, only Rob or I can add images to comments.
It requires Admin rights.
If you can come up with a way for everyone to do it, please share.
How’s your printing business coming along?
I need… stuff.
It’s stalled, my sister decided she didn’t want to “help”,
and with the health issues I’ve been having I’ve hardly
touched them. I’ve got your fan cover and the external
stands made, I just got to clean them up and make the
bottoms. maybe when the grass stops growing and the
outdoor stuff is done for the year I can get my son to
help fix up the trailer so I can have a work area, sitting
on the front porch with exacto knives and my deremel
tool isn’t ideal. If I can get that “new” printer working
once I get it, I’ll be able to print larger items, just not
nylon or the flexible TPU plastics.
Ok if you want, the filter openings are tricky,
I had to use supports and there’s a lot of
rough edges, if you have my email, shoot
me your PO box address. I’ll work on the
bottoms asap. Our hot water heater burned
out the bottom element and the lower end
of the tank has a crap-ton of lime/calcium
built up, I’m soaking the tank over night in
vinegar to melt it so I can flush it out. so I’ll
work on it once I can run clothes and take
a shower (sigh…) getting too old for this crap!
The problem might be that you’re trying to heat water that’s already hot.
Me, I have a cold water heater that works just fine.
I almost got into trouble with that concept when I was living in an RV
and my water heater element burned out. I went to the local hardware
store to get a replacement and the manager told me that they didn’t carry
parts for hot water heaters.
He didn’t think it was funny when I told him, “That’s okay, I want to heat cold water.”
I ended up buying a bottle of propane, That part still worked fine.
It’s because the water here has WAY too much lime and calcium in it,
you can taste it if you drink straight from the tap. It builds up on the
elements, and chips off. The vinegar helped, it broke down the larger
chunks, allowing us to use a wire coat hangers fashioned into a mini
rake to scrape most of it out, took hours. They did have a water
softener, but with my parents health they had to stop using it. a
softener for potassium nitrate(?) was very expensive and they
couldn’t swing it.
(Searches for used/refurbished 3D printers)
A Longer LK5 Pro for only $76? BUY! BUY! BUY!
(pounds mouse) Got it! Now I’ll just have to
“fix” it, most cases it was a bad assembly job
or someone got tired of it, and upgraded.
You’d be surprised how often people try to get
full price out of buyers. https://www.longer3d.com/products/lk5-pro-fdm-3d-printer?variant=42410870669556
I used PayPal, they treat bad sales the same way
credit cards do.
A punch to the gut.
I think I know what’s going on at TWC.
If I’m right, it’s going to get a lot worse before the end of October.
Owning a webcomic rating site AND a webcomic hosting site is pretty damned unethical.
If TGW gets kicked out of the top 100 in just four months (After spending almost four years in the top 10),
I’m just going to remove it from TWC entirely.
I noticed that, and there are far more people following this comic
than we who comment or vote. It’s griffting, plain and simple.
It doesn’t have to be unethical. That’s up to the owners. However,
given what we have seen over the last several months though, it would
appear that those comics hosted by TWC are getting an exorbitant
number of “votes” that were never actually cast by real viewers. So,
yeah, TWC has been losing credibility for the last several months already.
This apparent lapse in ethics is merely another bit of evidence.
It is certainly unethical. It’s as if Consumer Reports began manufacturing cars and within
three months their products became the top-rated vehicles on Consumer Reports.
It used to be that TGW would swap places often with other webcomics, now other
webcomics are jumping ahead by 5-700 votes in just a few hours and TGW never
gets near them again.
PC –
All I’m saying is that it doesn’t HAVE TO be unethical, but
that requires maintaining strictly held beliefs by the owners.
From what we have seen, the owners of TWC do not hold to
such “antiquated” beliefs.
So, yeah, these owners are unethical, but they are choosing
to be such.
It’s like my boss said about 40 years ago.
It is not an act of theft to have a liquor license.
But it’s a license to commit theft.
Yarp. What’s in the top 10 now is a buncha shit that spent years in the sub-100’s. It was bad
enough when they were merely selling votes. Now, they’re approaching credibility levels of kotaku,
IGN, and rotten tomatoes. 404.
For sure something hinkey going on @ TWC. No two ways about it!
HOboy, now Missy is involved? Wow, when this
assclown steps in it, it’s with both bare feet!
She’s been friendly when she can, and hell on
earth when she can’t. How many wanna bet
Duncan is going to BEG to join the Legion?
Mala is very well trained, maybe 100 lbs, and
very good at close combat. Ishmael is at least
6 FT, I’d say 210-220 lbs, and is badly dehydrated
to start with. We don’t know his training level
or skill level, other than it’s close to Mala’s. It’ll
make a good show, but I think she will wear him
down until he passes out or just gives up. Then
the offer and a chance to walk away from the
stupidity and join the winning team.
Look at panel six. They’re close to the same size and weight.
About 5’6″, 100-110 lbs.
1.7 Meters, 50 Kilograms.
TGW-1294, that’s his wife and she’s barely taller than Teresa, wearing 3″ heels.
Ah, perspective I guess, I thought he was taller.
Either way He’s spent how ever long with the
rest of them, No portable water, I doubt much
food, and I doubt he spends as much time
training as Mala has, since she’s been doing
it since she was 6. She will outlast him, at
least a fair margin. Hell, even in my youth,
she’d embarrass the cocky 18 y/o I was!
I was 5’8″, 175 at 18, Ishmael is at least that.
My upper body was heavier than his is now,
which slowed me down quite a bit.
The character in 1294 P5 is Ishmael’s wife? Curiouser and curioser.
I had guessed as much, although it also
makes me think Ishmael isn’t part of the
extremists, just a soldier that got dragged
in, acting the part to protect his wife.
Question, Catman. So “Saladin” is Mala’s “true name”. IMS, wasn’t
the historical Saladin a man? Why would Mala’s folks give her a
man’s name?
Because I thought it sounded cool?
a ‘did you know’..
in the muslim faith, a “true name” is chosen..
and used only around the faithful…
or in some cases to let the world know you have
chosen alla… IE: Cassius Clay = Muhammad Ali.
Or Yusuf Islam. Which turned out to be a declaration
that he was no longer on The Peace Train.
Mistral walking in is a plot twist I for sure wasn’t expecting.
Catman you DOG!
Oh great! Saturday serial style cliffhanger! Now we have to
wait till Monday night to see who lost!? Drat!
Yeah, I can’t even begin to guess which way this is going
to go now. We’ve got the “sergeant” guilty of stolen valor,
but in attempting to expose him, we also now have Cissy
impersonating a naval lieutenant. Yes, she “was” a US Navy
Lieutenant, but she was never an Imperial Navy Lieutenant.
Gonna get real interesting. And, as usual, the cat sayeth
nothing.
Well, even here in the U.S. (aka the land of 10,000 laws) it’s not illegal
to impersonate a service member. The Stolen Valor Acts make it a crime
to fraudulently claim certain military awards. The awards that will get
in trouble for claiming are: CMH, DSC, Navy Cross, Air Force Cross, Silver
Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart, Combat Action Ribbon, Combat
Infantryman’s Badge, Combat Action Badge, Combat Medic Badge,
and Combat Action Medal.
Note: The Stolen Valor Act of 2005 was ruled unconstitutional In 2012 on
1st Amendment grounds. A new version was passed in 2013. I could not
find anything about it being challenged.
It may not be illegal,
but if you’re in a bar with several real Marines,
you’ll probably find out if it’s popular!
https://www.bing.com/search?q=impersonating+a+military+person&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgEEEUYwgMyBggAEAAYQDIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIHCAQQRRjCAzIHCAUQRRjCAzIHCAYQRRjCAzIHCAcQRRjCA9IBCjI3MDEzNWowajmoAgSwAgE&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531
it is a crime…. some chose not to enforce because
“It interferes with my right to … “
Sorry, Mr Stanley but it is NOT illegal in the U.S. simply to claim to have
been in service. According to this article:
https://www.coalitionbrewing.com/is-it-against-the-law-to-pretend-you-were-in-the-military/
“No, pretending to have served in the military is generally not against the
law in the United States. However, it is inadvisable because it is a form of
identity theft and could be considered fraud. It is also considered
extremely disrespectful by many veterans and people who have lost
loved ones in service.”
“impersonating a US military member is a crime when one acts or
pretends to act as a US military member and wears any type of
‘military uniform, insignia, or identification document’.”
Stupid Muscle Guy is not in uniform so even in the U.S. he has NOT
committed a crime. I very much doubt the Empire has a more
restrictive system than the U.S. Sorry man but those are the facts.
ok,, GO back and read your original post.!
you said “impersonating”. … which is illegal.
to which i said “most chose not to enforce.!”
also look up “impersonate.”
https://thegunzone.com/is-it-illegal-to-impersonate-military/
No! There is no difference between “impersonating” and “pretending to be”.
I stand by what I wrote. Case closed!
ok,, give me “coalitionbrewing” homesite.! all i get is
beer sites… i want their legal backing to the claim..
i want to know how “impersonating’ which means
pretending to be.” is different,. from them..
the 6 or more sites i go to all say “Illegal”…
Dun Dun dun duuuum….
stay tuned, same time, same cat channel!
This week the medication study had me undergo a fundoscopy. I just
hope it was conclusive.
fingers crossed.!!
good luck.
It was a joke. True blue Trekkers’ ears will perk up at the term “fundoscopic
examination”. In Trek IV McCoy advises some 20th century doctors that
fundoscopic examination would be inconclusive. Actually all fundoscopic
examination is is a really thorough eye exam. When the study people told
me I had to get the exam that scene popped up in my mind immediately.
Looks like Ishmael connected with a left hook to Mala’s jaw (Panel 7 ),
but she may have connected her knife to his midsection (panels 7 & 8).
Yeah I see the same, but she could have buried the knife
and gutted him, looks like just another painful slash.
By my count that’s 3 small ones on her, 5 on him.
Yeah, it’s not obvious, is it? I should have used a closer view at a different angle.
They’re punching each other with their left hands, Mala is blocking his knife hand with hers.
At this point, neither actually wants to kill each other.
That’s why he’s bending over and she’s falling to her left, they both connected hard.
Yeah from this angle it looked like the tip was running across his stomach.
Don’t worry about it, lord knows how often I miss the obvious, I was tinkering
with (funny enough) Tinker CAD and when I thought I was done and ran a
test print, the entire back wall was missing! by the way, does anyone want
a rat house that can double as a bright yellow wig?
Looking again from your input, her fist got him right in the Solar Plexus!
Yeah, he’s gonna need a second…
I’m surprised that no one yelled, “ATTENTION!
ADMIRAL ON THE BRIDGE!” when Mistral walked
into the bar.
Technically, she’s not in uniform, but I agree, they should have
at least stopped and stood at attention and saluted. However,
it was a tense situation and Duncan is the type to take an
unfair advantage at that moment, like trying to run or punching
someone to get clear. That would be like expecting the men in
a trench to announce the CO during combat. Not a good thing.
Sorry, man, but they’re all in doors and nobody is in uniform. The only
time I ever saluted in doors was when I was reporting to my Commander
and then the salute was accompanied by “Sgt (or Ssgt) Mullins reporting
as ordered, Sir!”. Maybe the other services do it differently.
Mistrial did build the navy from ground up, so I have to wonder
what rules she kept and which she changed. I just know when
ever my father started in with his DI voice, my mother would
interrupt him, heh.
I did get enough to respect the uniform and what it means, anyway
Well, her idea that all officers would be called “Sir” died quickly when everyone kept calling her “Ma’am”.
She and Teresa both wanted female Marines. Sgt Birov and Walker gave them copies of Tom Kratman’s
“Amazon Legion” and said “Come back after you’ve read it”. (Great book, by the way.)
Then they pointed out that the Imperial Marines were getting more male recruits than they could train,
why complicate things?
And that all support tasks were done by the Imperial Navy, which was (slightly) majority female.
The Imperial Marines have never been “Trial and error” where it wasn’t necessary.
One of my favorite parts of the “Amazon Legion” was when the pig got curb-stomped.
Indoors, when an officer walks in you stand at attention but don’t salute. You salute officers outdoors,
with an exception for when snipers might be watching for you to identify an officer. If you are in a group outdoors
and an officer approaches, the one in charge of the group should salute for the whole group – the officer
does not want to be returning salutes to each of you!
Indoors, you only salute when reporting to the officer.
And everyone there is off duty and in civvies versus on duty in doors. No
requirement either to salute or come to attention.
Question for the Catman. I went to TWC to vote for TGW and couldn’t
find it. What’s the scoop? Anybody else try to vote and couldn’t?
Yeah, it’s at 96 right now. When I voted this morning, it was
in the hundreds for the first time in almost four years.
I just cast votes #s 40 & 41 and am happy to see TGW sitting @ #46.
#30 with 103 votes, right now. when i voted at 6am your time,
it was @49 with 23 votes.. (i can vote 3 devices,)(3 different IPN)
and my roommate as my witness,, it was still 23, thirty min later…
BUT the other comic i vote for, updated right away… o.0
5:30 PM west coast time. #23. I’ve found that they’ve got me pegged
at once per day per machine. Unless – If I somehow didn’t vote the
previous day, and it’s before 5 PM, I can vote, and vote again at 5 PM,
regardless if that is in as low as only 2 hours. It’s the same schedule for
both my home computer and my work computer.
If you register at TWC you can vote twice in quick succession.
Once anonymously and once logged in.
I’ve been doing it for years.
Testing:
I finally figured out how to do this.
Cool! Might save you some time, maybe?
I see that WordPress uses the PHP type
of coding, I was like WTH?!? New to me.
Hmmm… I wonder if there’s freebie coder
for that? http://www.filehippo.com here I come!
Right now, only Rob or I can add images to comments.
It requires Admin rights.
If you can come up with a way for everyone to do it, please share.
How’s your printing business coming along?
I need… stuff.
It’s stalled, my sister decided she didn’t want to “help”,
and with the health issues I’ve been having I’ve hardly
touched them. I’ve got your fan cover and the external
stands made, I just got to clean them up and make the
bottoms. maybe when the grass stops growing and the
outdoor stuff is done for the year I can get my son to
help fix up the trailer so I can have a work area, sitting
on the front porch with exacto knives and my deremel
tool isn’t ideal. If I can get that “new” printer working
once I get it, I’ll be able to print larger items, just not
nylon or the flexible TPU plastics.
Heh-heh. I can clean them up.
I too have a Dremel and X-acto knives.
(They’re all old enough to be the good stuff!)
Ok if you want, the filter openings are tricky,
I had to use supports and there’s a lot of
rough edges, if you have my email, shoot
me your PO box address. I’ll work on the
bottoms asap. Our hot water heater burned
out the bottom element and the lower end
of the tank has a crap-ton of lime/calcium
built up, I’m soaking the tank over night in
vinegar to melt it so I can flush it out. so I’ll
work on it once I can run clothes and take
a shower (sigh…) getting too old for this crap!
The problem might be that you’re trying to heat water that’s already hot.
Me, I have a cold water heater that works just fine.
I almost got into trouble with that concept when I was living in an RV
and my water heater element burned out. I went to the local hardware
store to get a replacement and the manager told me that they didn’t carry
parts for hot water heaters.
He didn’t think it was funny when I told him, “That’s okay, I want to heat cold water.”
I ended up buying a bottle of propane, That part still worked fine.
It’s because the water here has WAY too much lime and calcium in it,
you can taste it if you drink straight from the tap. It builds up on the
elements, and chips off. The vinegar helped, it broke down the larger
chunks, allowing us to use a wire coat hangers fashioned into a mini
rake to scrape most of it out, took hours. They did have a water
softener, but with my parents health they had to stop using it. a
softener for potassium nitrate(?) was very expensive and they
couldn’t swing it.
Should have seen the look the guy at check-out had
when ringing up 10 1 gallon bottles of vinegar!
Dear God:
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/08/31/new-gold-star-families-release-devestating-responses-to-kamala-harris-politicizing-trump-cemetery-visit-n2178787
Scroll down and watch the videos.
Someone is so desperate that they have to make visiting a
military cemetery political? Gads…..
I agree.
That cheesy grin and thumbs up standing beside
the family at the headstone was disgusting.
Yay for the German Polizei (Starts at 1:40):
https://modernity.news/2024/08/28/this-is-actually-a-real-story/
Maybe that gal needs to take a walk down my street in ’78
and complain about her “issue” afterwards?
(Searches for used/refurbished 3D printers)
A Longer LK5 Pro for only $76? BUY! BUY! BUY!
(pounds mouse) Got it! Now I’ll just have to
“fix” it, most cases it was a bad assembly job
or someone got tired of it, and upgraded.
You’d be surprised how often people try to get
full price out of buyers.
https://www.longer3d.com/products/lk5-pro-fdm-3d-printer?variant=42410870669556
I used PayPal, they treat bad sales the same way
credit cards do.