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TGW-948

Chapter: Sister Sister
Characters: ariste, hikaru, ket'rrt, tenshi
Location: camp, shop
└ Tags: oh really!, teaching business

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Discussion (24) ¬

  1. Paul
    June 1, 2022, 20:09 | # | Reply

    HMMM Mrs. Hikaru really is a decent person, showing Tenshi the ropes.
    Nice. New friends make in danger. Good.
    , everyone has somebody at their six.

  2. Bill Mullins
    June 1, 2022, 20:42 | # | Reply

    Horned ones are grass eaters? Still think they ought to be called
    Lopes. Horns like an antelope and not merely herbivores but grass
    eaters. Lopes sounds about right to me.

    • Petercat
      June 1, 2022, 20:48 | # | Reply

      It’s an expression of disdain.
      I’m channeling Larry Niven. The Kzin.

      • Dreamfox
        June 2, 2022, 06:38 | # | Reply

        Something that is often forgotten in Science Fiction & Fantasy.
        Swearwords, derogatory terms for people and so on.
        There has been a nice video about how such things change from
        Shadiversity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAsyyBqSQ3k

      • Bill Mullins
        June 2, 2022, 06:53 | # | Reply

        Okay but their behavior is still that of prey animals. I’m not sure I buy
        prey animals evolving sapience. Omnivores, yes. Carnivores (even insectivores),
        sure. I just cannot see a species of herbivores evolving to sentience. Of
        course I also cannot imagine multiple sapient species evolving on a single
        world. While I understand I am arguing from a very small sample, I know what
        happened here on Terra. While multiple sapient species did evolve 1) they
        were all primates and 2) ultimately all but one died out and/or were absorbed.
        The only way I see multiple species arising on a single worlds by uplift a la
        David Brin. I just think that simultaneous evolution of multiple sapient
        species is utterly unlikely and that if somehow it did happen competition
        would ensure only a single species survived.
        As I see it the prey would be hunted down by the predators and then the
        predators would kill one another off until only a single species survived.

        And another thing. Even allowing for multiple sapient species to evolve
        on a single world how did the diaspora occur? Multiple sapient species
        arising and all developing not merely civilization, not merely developing
        TECHNOLOGICAL civilization, but SPACEFARING technological civilizations
        seems too unlikely. Sorry, Catman, but I don’t see it. It’s your story to
        tell but I think such a thing requires a species such as the Progenitors.
        Even Niven and Pournelle used such a device to bring the Fithp an
        herbivorous, prey animal species – into being. Just think of the possible
        plot line of a Trek-style mixed crew (including former Zanadu species)
        setting out to find the Progenitors.

        • Petercat
          June 2, 2022, 07:06 | # | Reply

          They’re omnivores. Calling them grass eaters is just an insult. Sort
          of like calling someone today a “cheese eater”.

          • Jan
            June 2, 2022, 13:31 | # | Reply

            Hey! Cheese is good. Real cheese you cut with either a knife or a
            string-thingy, not the fabricated varieties you just smear on bread. 😉

        • Petercat
          June 2, 2022, 07:19 | # | Reply

          I think it would be safe to assume that the Dragons had
          something to do with it. They’re pretty advanced compared
          to all other species.

        • Jochi
          June 2, 2022, 10:19 | # | Reply

          Uplift or not, I have the not-too-unrealistic impression all the sapients traded goods and information.
          They all developed technologies together or traded them (or stole them). They all signed a mutual
          support and defense treaty before they scattered, and to this day they all speak the same language.
          (I also get the impression the fossil record on PC’s Terra may not quite jive with the one on this Earth.)

          I’m glad Hikaru is being straight with Tenshi. But I have to ask, school?

      • herekittykitty
        June 3, 2022, 21:15 | # | Reply

        *wink*

  3. Petercat
    June 1, 2022, 20:47 | # | Reply

    Message to “Me”. About your comments. I do value your input, even if we
    don’t agree. I hope you continue reading and pointing out things that you don’t like.
    I can’t improve the story if I don’t have critics. So, thank you for your input.

    • iain Na Hearadh
      June 3, 2022, 03:19 | # | Reply

      Petercat,
      So, does this mean that your Shadow Banning or Deleting certain comments?

      I’ve noticed that a few of my otherwise quite innocuous comments seem
      to disappear.
      Whether this also may be a technical (wordpress) issue, or a PHP
      filtering issue, remains to be seen.

      Should I have offended you, or been overly verbose on occasion with
      the comments, it would seem more polite to simply advise us all who
      step over some unknown line.
      I don’t seem to have this problem on most other WordPress sites, or
      sites that I support or host, but then, I tend to vet, and as required,
      correct, all of the WordPress code and related css and html, and third
      party code material, that I host and support, so there is that.

      As for ME, after reviewing both pages, his comments are basically
      naive, which is what you would expect when someone hasn’t had real
      exposure to certain subjects first hand, and/or doesn’t understand
      the concepts being put forward, or the Socratic method.

      That anybody also spouts the usual social pieties, regardless of their
      political philosophies, or lack thereof, to that those who can think
      critically, and who have often have more lived real world experience,
      and often prefer what is considered a Conservative worldview, I, and
      I’ve noticed, many others, find them amusing, at best, depending on
      context and the conversation.

      As for being hated, despised, or held in contempt, no, they have to
      work at that, and consistently show that they are reverting to propaganda
      and thoughtlessness as their default position.

      However, even then, other than being stern in any reply, and providing the
      reasons why their position and opinion is in error, or fundamentally flawed,
      I can’t remember anyone being savagely abused by yourself or the regulars,
      unless those comments were also ghosted.
      Which outside of abusive Trolls, would seem to make no sense.

      • Petercat
        June 3, 2022, 05:19 | # | Reply

        I have never deleted anyone’s comment here, save for the rare occasion that a
        duplicate post appears. Or if the commenter asks me to.
        I really value your comments, you know a lot and don’t mind sharing your
        knowledge in a way that is easy to understand.
        I also value Me’s input, because he(?) opens up a view of the world from an
        entirely different perspective that I would otherwise not see, in a calm and
        rational way.
        I might edit someone’s comments, usually to correct a spelling error or to add
        paragraph indents as I did yours, above. It makes them easier to read on some
        devices.
        But I will never edit one to change it’s meaning.

      • Petercat
        June 3, 2022, 10:26 | # | Reply

        It might be that you’ve used a word that will automatically get your comment
        sent to the trash. Most of them are drug or other spam related. I get so many
        spam comments in my trash that I don’t even bother going through them any
        more. When you leave a comment that doesn’t post immediately, leave a
        short comment saying so and I’ll look for it in the trash folder.
        There are two other readers that always have their comments held for moderation
        and I don’t know why. Do you know anything about WordPress?

      • Petercat
        June 3, 2022, 14:30 | # | Reply

        I just removed some words from my automatic-trash spam list.
        Ivermectine
        Generic
        Weblog
        We’ll see how it goes, I might have to add them again.

        • me
          June 3, 2022, 16:34 | # | Reply

          Does your filter maybe hit words like fr…g?

  4. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
    June 2, 2022, 00:09 | # | Reply

    Horned Ones….grass eaters……cowards.
    As a corollary, I’m going to conjecture that that Horned Ones are
    also the type to shake your hand with one hand,
    while stabbing you in the back with the other hand.
    Be it physically, politically, trade, rumor and innuendo,
    or to your face.
    Sounds like a race not to be trusted as far as you could throw them.
    Interesting the intel one can gather in the most unlikely of places,
    from the most unlikely of sources.
    That is, IF you stay awake and aware.
    Now feed that back up the chain of command, and see how that one
    little bit of intel applies to the Interstellar Big Picture.

  5. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
    June 2, 2022, 00:13 | # | Reply

    “…..you buy supplies from me…”
    At a wholesale discount, right? Not retail, right?

    • Heinlein's Razor
      June 2, 2022, 01:24 | # | Reply

      This is a flashback from the present. In the present she is a
      successful and busy person with multiple people working for her.
      So I think Mrs. Hikaru must have done right by her.

    • Petercat
      June 2, 2022, 06:19 | # | Reply

      Not exactly. She does get a small discount which increases with
      volume until she is effectively just adding her orders to those
      of Mrs Hikaru, thus getting them for the same price that she does.

  6. Petercat
    June 2, 2022, 06:27 | # | Reply

    There is a new reader who is asking some serious questions at TGW-513 and 277.
    I believe they are a decent person who honestly wants answers, so if any of you would
    care to join the conversation?
    Just don’t scare them away.

  7. rob stanley
    June 2, 2022, 10:30 | # | Reply

    worked,, and,, if you ask PC can make you a avatar..

  8. Paul
    June 2, 2022, 20:09 | # | Reply

    Hello.

  9. Scarsdale
    June 2, 2022, 23:33 | # | Reply

    hi and enjoy I just made my own from years back lol.

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