Mrs. Hikaru is looking after the girls very well and now with Carl’s help,
things will really improve for them.
Shouldn’t we be hearing Cat Scratch Fever now? Ha ha.
I can see Carl offering Tenshi looking after the
rental of his offices with Mrs Hikaru managing both;
perhaps subletting the shop to free up enough time for her to do so.
Obviously, these merchants haven’t dealt with Catians before, or cats in general…
Anyone with half a brain knows, if the ears go back and the eyes get squinty,
slowly back away from the cat, making as little noise as possible,
OR you’re in for a world of hurt…
Shouldn’t the poor, hospitalized Horned Cpt have an IV drip to replace
the blood he’s lost from the many Cat Scratches (Fever) he’s sustained?
I agree with Paul, we should be hearing Ted Nugent in the background.
Fortunately for that captain, Cats, being derived from humans,
have no claws, only finger nails. So while she likely beat the stuffing
out of him (hence the casts) he probably didn’t lose much blood.
Yeah my hackles were up with that comment too 😉 anyone here who didn’t think that was going to happen? LOL
Maybe now he’ll stop trying to boss everyone and LISTEN instead of yelling? Naaa….
With Carl’s connections and Alice’s managing I think Tenshi’s business is going to be booming in short order just
like Walker’s girls taxi service did!
Wormholes; how big a ship can they handle?
Perhaps the the weight of ships descending on Catia in the event of war could be in the form of a
large asteroid sized warship with enough ordinance and fighters to tackle a star system.
It was also stated (can’t find the reference with a quick look) that ships cannot follow each other too closely
or they will end up merged together on exit; but if two (or more) ships go through simultaneously and in actual
contact with each other (think Catias Pride with the fighters attached outside) would that constitute a ‘single vessel’?
If so the core could send several ships through that way, especially if they have the knowledge to keep their shields up.
There is an upper size limit (max diameter) on wormhole travel but PC
has never given hard numbers. Considering the horned folks’ penchant
for building large, dreadnought-type ships, I would be surprised if
the vessel they came in wasn’t right around the maximum allowable
(by physics) size.
Well, it’s also a matter of practicality (and costs!)
Twice the diameter means eight times the mass
(unless the whole thing is mostly empty).
That’s (roughly) eight times the fuel needed to move it about.
And probably maintenance cost is roughly eight times as high too.
True; but that also means eight times the missiles etc; or more likely
four times the missiles with extended range and/or firepower.
And how does the economics of building eight conventional ships that could be
destroyed going through one at a time compare to one massive ship capable
of surviving long enough to take out the entire fleet of ships the cats have in orbit?
Given a big enough ship it could even survive against the grav missiles the cats have.
Of coarse all this speculation depends on two factors; can the wormholes handle ships that big,
can the core build (or more specifically do they already have them
since they would take too long to build if they didn’t).
The thing is, the size of the ship doesn’t really matter
as long as you know where it has to go through.
Simply put as many missiles in reach of the wormhole as you want. you
could place enough to take out the Death Star if you wanted. Something
they have used in a limited capacity before before when they contacted
the Dogishuans. One of the advantages is that they are very hard to
find even if you know where they are.
That’s why the Core Worlds possibly having FTL capacity independent of
the wormholes is such a game changer. They have to rethink their entire
defense plans. Now they need another stockpile of missiles in orbit of
the planets and installations they want to defend.
If it’s the situation I’m thinking of they wanted a war, it was just
an excuse to start it like a bully teasing someone just to make them
mad enough to take a swing.
Without knowing the rules of interstellar diplomacy in this universe,
I guess it’ll depend on whether they’re actively looking for a
“casus belli” or not.
An official from one … nation(?) physically attacking a foreign official
who is present for some kind of official negotiation or talks should
probably be considered an “incident”.
How strongly you react to those is (hopefully) subject to some level
of flexibility.
(Diplomacy rules that force your hands like that are very very bad.
“You insulted my [whatever] – I have no choice but to declare war!”)
Judging by the – rather casual – comment of his subordinate,
I don’t think they’ll consider it as an act of war;
nor as a welcome excuse for one either.
Considering his behavior I’d say they’d laugh and mutter “It’s about
time someone shut him up” lol basically if your XO is begging you to
calm down in a diplomatic situation and you don’t then it’s on you 😉
As these were merchants, and NOT an official diplomatic delegation,
I’d say that the likelihood of a war is extremely low.
Especially after they treated the wounds and gave medical care.
Had they killed the crew and stolen the ship, on the other hand….
Wormholes are almost completely a sci-fi creation there are theories that black holes create them which would make them very rare
and very dangerous to have in any planetary system.
Usable wormholes on the scale that PC shows us would almost have to make them artificial otherwise they would of swallowed up
the system they were in, which would make for an interesting story line later on….
Folding space without effecting time requires a huge amount of localized gravity in one area and a tremendous amount of energy to
maintain and lets face it no where did PC say it’s all in the same universe… ok now my head hurts gonna lay down LOL.
I believe it’s more the effect of matter passing through rather than the size of the wormhole the greater the mass the more likelihood
it would destabilize and destroy that matter as well as the speed of the matter when it enters.
Think of a whirlpool and if you toss a rock dead center it passes through no problem but if you drop too large of a rock or toss it off
center the whirlpool gets all wonky or disappears “stable” isn’t a real thing barely stable is more fitting. which is another thought the
Gravity drives could destabilize and even close one!
Hmmm… another battle tactic in the making and a last-ditch one at that…
https://www.space.com/20881-wormholes.html
not sci-fi .. and in 2015 they made a magnetic wormhole..
also they were originally called “White holes” ,, the opposite
of black holes..
The latest theory on white holes are they are created when a black hole collapses they
throw off matter/energy rather than attract it. Which supports the wormhole theory as well.
The theoretical possibility of “white holes” mentioned in the link you
supplied has yet to be observed in the real world.
And to make a wormhole of these you’d need to connect them to a black
hole. (I.e.: black hole + white whole = wormhole)
There’s quite a few practical problems with that. (Even if we ignore
the whole “how to create black and white holes where we need them and
how do we connect those?”)
First: to travel through such a wormhole would basically require you to enter it’s black hole.
Which is a very bad idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification
(In short, the difference in g-forces between your head and body will rip you apart,
similarly your ship will be ripped apart too)
Second: while you might be able to survive falling into a big black hole (like millions of solar
masses big), you don’t want any of these anywhere near your home planet, obviously.
(I’m skipping other unfortunate properties like the radiation emitted by s
tuff falling into your brand new gateway …)
Lastly, the black&white hole wormholes would be one-way roads.
You’d need another pair for the return trip.
And I’m pretty sure that living near a white hole isn’t too much fun either
– what about all the other stuff inevitably falling through the black hole
and dropping out on the white hole side?
If anybody ever finds a way to build such roads, they’d probably have to
place the entry and exit points far far away from their home worlds. Which
would mean you’d have to get out there before you could pass through them.
Oops. Should’ve rad the whole article before replying. Last time I read about
Einstein-Rosen-bridges they were considered to be way too small and too
unstable to be of any practical use (even if someone where able to create them).
As for the “magnetic wormholes” … as far as I understand that paper (which I
don’t understand remotely completely) it’s not about sending material object
over significant distances but about displacing and cloaking magnetic fields –
I’m not even sure that they’re talking about transmitting them faster than
light speed or just about cloaking them.
magnetic wormholes .. they sent a magnetic field thru a invisible / undetectable pathway..
IE: what they want to do is ,, send a MRI remotely , without you being near the machine..
A story of a historical bully who did not know when
to leave well enough alone and also to apologize.
‘… nothing but dinners and parties!
‘ He should have been happy to have had it so good. But no.
Fools demand when they should not and in insulting ways they should have avoided.
He also acted as though his tough guys were with him while they were far away.
That is a very nice summation and explanation. But that’s the difference
between science, science fiction and reality. Science fiction says “I am going
to ignore or reinterpret this one thing or predict this thing however unlikely
it is, but that’s just to make it possible to tell the story I want to tell. And
other than that I am going to try to develop things logically.” Fantasy
jumps straight to “A wizard did it, don’t bother to try to figure out the rules
that apply here. They don’t.”
reminder Jeyta is part Cat.
Mrs. Hikaru is looking after the girls very well and now with Carl’s help,
things will really improve for them.
Shouldn’t we be hearing Cat Scratch Fever now? Ha ha.
I can see Carl offering Tenshi looking after the
rental of his offices with Mrs Hikaru managing both;
perhaps subletting the shop to free up enough time for her to do so.
Obviously, these merchants haven’t dealt with Catians before, or cats in general…
Anyone with half a brain knows, if the ears go back and the eyes get squinty,
slowly back away from the cat, making as little noise as possible,
OR you’re in for a world of hurt…
The Captain rubs the cats the wrong way and discovers they bite – hard!
>for example, if you make a remark that is met with absolute silence,
>I would recomment that you apologize immediately and request clarification.
The Captain was warned, way back in TGW-941! And his XO tried to pull
him back, but noooo, he is “Captain” and everybody else is supposed
to jump :{
Shouldn’t the poor, hospitalized Horned Cpt have an IV drip to replace
the blood he’s lost from the many Cat Scratches (Fever) he’s sustained?
I agree with Paul, we should be hearing Ted Nugent in the background.
Fortunately for that captain, Cats, being derived from humans,
have no claws, only finger nails. So while she likely beat the stuffing
out of him (hence the casts) he probably didn’t lose much blood.
Yeah my hackles were up with that comment too 😉 anyone here who didn’t think that was going to happen? LOL
Maybe now he’ll stop trying to boss everyone and LISTEN instead of yelling? Naaa….
With Carl’s connections and Alice’s managing I think Tenshi’s business is going to be booming in short order just
like Walker’s girls taxi service did!
Wormholes; how big a ship can they handle?
Perhaps the the weight of ships descending on Catia in the event of war could be in the form of a
large asteroid sized warship with enough ordinance and fighters to tackle a star system.
It was also stated (can’t find the reference with a quick look) that ships cannot follow each other too closely
or they will end up merged together on exit; but if two (or more) ships go through simultaneously and in actual
contact with each other (think Catias Pride with the fighters attached outside) would that constitute a ‘single vessel’?
If so the core could send several ships through that way, especially if they have the knowledge to keep their shields up.
There is an upper size limit (max diameter) on wormhole travel but PC
has never given hard numbers. Considering the horned folks’ penchant
for building large, dreadnought-type ships, I would be surprised if
the vessel they came in wasn’t right around the maximum allowable
(by physics) size.
Well, it’s also a matter of practicality (and costs!)
Twice the diameter means eight times the mass
(unless the whole thing is mostly empty).
That’s (roughly) eight times the fuel needed to move it about.
And probably maintenance cost is roughly eight times as high too.
True; but that also means eight times the missiles etc; or more likely
four times the missiles with extended range and/or firepower.
And how does the economics of building eight conventional ships that could be
destroyed going through one at a time compare to one massive ship capable
of surviving long enough to take out the entire fleet of ships the cats have in orbit?
Given a big enough ship it could even survive against the grav missiles the cats have.
Of coarse all this speculation depends on two factors; can the wormholes handle ships that big,
can the core build (or more specifically do they already have them
since they would take too long to build if they didn’t).
The thing is, the size of the ship doesn’t really matter
as long as you know where it has to go through.
Simply put as many missiles in reach of the wormhole as you want. you
could place enough to take out the Death Star if you wanted. Something
they have used in a limited capacity before before when they contacted
the Dogishuans. One of the advantages is that they are very hard to
find even if you know where they are.
That’s why the Core Worlds possibly having FTL capacity independent of
the wormholes is such a game changer. They have to rethink their entire
defense plans. Now they need another stockpile of missiles in orbit of
the planets and installations they want to defend.
Uh oh. What is the likelihood of the core worlds
considering what happened to Kev’lan an act of war?
well.. if you remember.. a war was started because,
they didn’t remove their hats (turbans)..
so whatever slight the other thinks warrants it.
If it’s the situation I’m thinking of they wanted a war, it was just
an excuse to start it like a bully teasing someone just to make them
mad enough to take a swing.
Without knowing the rules of interstellar diplomacy in this universe,
I guess it’ll depend on whether they’re actively looking for a
“casus belli” or not.
An official from one … nation(?) physically attacking a foreign official
who is present for some kind of official negotiation or talks should
probably be considered an “incident”.
How strongly you react to those is (hopefully) subject to some level
of flexibility.
(Diplomacy rules that force your hands like that are very very bad.
“You insulted my [whatever] – I have no choice but to declare war!”)
Judging by the – rather casual – comment of his subordinate,
I don’t think they’ll consider it as an act of war;
nor as a welcome excuse for one either.
Considering his behavior I’d say they’d laugh and mutter “It’s about
time someone shut him up” lol basically if your XO is begging you to
calm down in a diplomatic situation and you don’t then it’s on you 😉
As these were merchants, and NOT an official diplomatic delegation,
I’d say that the likelihood of a war is extremely low.
Especially after they treated the wounds and gave medical care.
Had they killed the crew and stolen the ship, on the other hand….
Wormholes are almost completely a sci-fi creation there are theories that black holes create them which would make them very rare
and very dangerous to have in any planetary system.
Usable wormholes on the scale that PC shows us would almost have to make them artificial otherwise they would of swallowed up
the system they were in, which would make for an interesting story line later on….
Folding space without effecting time requires a huge amount of localized gravity in one area and a tremendous amount of energy to
maintain and lets face it no where did PC say it’s all in the same universe… ok now my head hurts gonna lay down LOL.
I believe it’s more the effect of matter passing through rather than the size of the wormhole the greater the mass the more likelihood
it would destabilize and destroy that matter as well as the speed of the matter when it enters.
Think of a whirlpool and if you toss a rock dead center it passes through no problem but if you drop too large of a rock or toss it off
center the whirlpool gets all wonky or disappears “stable” isn’t a real thing barely stable is more fitting. which is another thought the
Gravity drives could destabilize and even close one!
Hmmm… another battle tactic in the making and a last-ditch one at that…
https://www.space.com/20881-wormholes.html
not sci-fi .. and in 2015 they made a magnetic wormhole..
also they were originally called “White holes” ,, the opposite
of black holes..
I did say “almost” and sci-fi has inspired research before but again that’s
something that requires energy and maintenance to keep open.
The latest theory on white holes are they are created when a black hole collapses they
throw off matter/energy rather than attract it. Which supports the wormhole theory as well.
The theoretical possibility of “white holes” mentioned in the link you
supplied has yet to be observed in the real world.
And to make a wormhole of these you’d need to connect them to a black
hole. (I.e.: black hole + white whole = wormhole)
There’s quite a few practical problems with that. (Even if we ignore
the whole “how to create black and white holes where we need them and
how do we connect those?”)
First: to travel through such a wormhole would basically require you to enter it’s black hole.
Which is a very bad idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification
(In short, the difference in g-forces between your head and body will rip you apart,
similarly your ship will be ripped apart too)
Second: while you might be able to survive falling into a big black hole (like millions of solar
masses big), you don’t want any of these anywhere near your home planet, obviously.
(I’m skipping other unfortunate properties like the radiation emitted by s
tuff falling into your brand new gateway …)
Lastly, the black&white hole wormholes would be one-way roads.
You’d need another pair for the return trip.
And I’m pretty sure that living near a white hole isn’t too much fun either
– what about all the other stuff inevitably falling through the black hole
and dropping out on the white hole side?
If anybody ever finds a way to build such roads, they’d probably have to
place the entry and exit points far far away from their home worlds. Which
would mean you’d have to get out there before you could pass through them.
Oops. Should’ve rad the whole article before replying. Last time I read about
Einstein-Rosen-bridges they were considered to be way too small and too
unstable to be of any practical use (even if someone where able to create them).
As for the “magnetic wormholes” … as far as I understand that paper (which I
don’t understand remotely completely) it’s not about sending material object
over significant distances but about displacing and cloaking magnetic fields –
I’m not even sure that they’re talking about transmitting them faster than
light speed or just about cloaking them.
everybody seems to think ,, blackholes an wormhole are similar.. they are not.!
https://scopethegalaxy.com/black-hole-vs-wormhole/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20a,points%20in%20time%20and%20space.
magnetic wormholes .. they sent a magnetic field thru a invisible / undetectable pathway..
IE: what they want to do is ,, send a MRI remotely , without you being near the machine..
https://emergingrevolutionarywar.org/2017/01/18/the-epic-tarring-and-feathering-of-john-malcom/
A story of a historical bully who did not know when
to leave well enough alone and also to apologize.
‘… nothing but dinners and parties!
‘ He should have been happy to have had it so good. But no.
Fools demand when they should not and in insulting ways they should have avoided.
He also acted as though his tough guys were with him while they were far away.
OT: nice, easily understandable reading about how science works and what’s wrong with wild
“alternative theories I just made up while drinking my beer and watching Star Trek”.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/GravityIsOnlyATheory
That is a very nice summation and explanation. But that’s the difference
between science, science fiction and reality. Science fiction says “I am going
to ignore or reinterpret this one thing or predict this thing however unlikely
it is, but that’s just to make it possible to tell the story I want to tell. And
other than that I am going to try to develop things logically.” Fantasy
jumps straight to “A wizard did it, don’t bother to try to figure out the rules
that apply here. They don’t.”
And then there’s Clarke’s (fictional) third law …
That captain should be very grateful that those cats don’t have actual claws. He’d be in a lot worse shape.