Not a big fan myself but I know my son will be upset about it heck he’s started to learn
how to read Japanese I know he has a bit of the spoken word figured out. He’s 33 btw LOL
Stripecoat,
Crucifixion actually predates the Ancient Romans, they borrowed the idea.
Given historical accounts, it was generally reserved for those who were to be
made an example of, or to intimidate those who threatened the Status Quo.
As was also noted, it depended on the Status, and whose quo you managed to run afoul of.
Unfortunately, it was still in regular use in the Western world, up until the late eighteen century.
So yes, many of us whose personal beliefs are offended by the methods used, still need to recognize
that a lot of non Western Locations still employ crucifixion and other savage execution methods as
a first choice, for what we would deem as civil offenses, be they serious or socially offensive,
and petty crime.
So yes, in general, I would prefer, in this context, that it be on the table as a deterrent,
or as option you could face when you get caught and convicted of Serious Criminal Malfeasance..
I second that the rest are too gentle or quick the punishment should match the crime.
But that would require a moose in full rut lol I hope they use the X rather than the
biblical one.
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
It’s a horrible way to die no doubt and messy there was an incident where a rival gang member
had been tied to a light pole and their feet to the back bumper of a car which was started and
left in gear and the other gang left… slow drawn and halved it was about the time the movie
“Ben Hur” was back in the local theaters so someone was inspired.
Crucifixion is on the list and would give those animals time to think before they died however
I think it best if it wasn’t done publicly it could cause someone to try to “rescue” them.
Hmmm… I think impalement would be too quick anyway,
that came about due to the invention of pikes
in combat can’t pull it free?
Just raise them up and draw your sword.
That is actually more warships than I expected
although some of them could be armed freighters
The infrastructure is about what I expected, but not that it was larger than anything the core had
and Earth is likely to have even more infrastructure and the main Wolf Empire battle fleet
They have yet to find out the Dogishua have an equally unexpected orbital industry and a battle fleet.
The time line is a bit hazy so it’s hard to say how long they have been building the ships etc…
The dog’s planet is poor in metals so it’d have to be harvested from other sources we really
don’t have a lot of details on their system. Depending on the extent of the shipping structure
and the resources that can be brought in… PC knows…
The Dogishuans were left with the orbital equipment to mine the asteroids
Being an astronomically young planet they do not have the oil and coal fields needed
to kick start an advanced technology even with the necessary knowledge.
And that means they should have a higher percentage of asteroids than older systems.
Considering they expect the war, probably with piracy and commerce raiding involved,
the freighters are probably all armed.
It is interesting to know the extend, or lack of it, of stellar infrastructure.
It sounds like the Core Worlds are not really using the full potential of a star system.
If time is not a factor, it can easier and cheaper to exploit other people.
But it really limits the available resources and possibilities.
If I’m right, that’s a rather rare setup. I’ve only rarely read about one like that,
but most of them had at least some stellar infrastructure in the home system(s).
If I remember correctly Ulroth’s Dream mistook an armed freighter of the Cats for a Dreadnaught.
(If it wasn’t them then it was someone else; perhaps Captain Menga when she first met the Cats)
I am thinking the same thing is happening here and most, if not all, of the eleven ‘warships’ are actually armed freighters
However that doesn’t mean they are any less capable militarily than the warships they have been mistaken for.
“If ’twas done, ’twas best done quickly.”
Anger for the deeds might say crucifixion.
However, concern for trauma to those given the
the job suggests lethal injection or firing squad.
And now the fun begins I’m sure these “demons” will turn tail and report back ASAP
I doubt they will try to take on the fleet that they are looking at lol. If The Catians
have that big of a fleet just imagine the size of the Terran fleet must be by now!
I was a bit surprised at the choices I only knew hanging and the Legions little bonfire
from page 755 (another bunch on Ryder’s level of depravity). I’d still like to see how
they remotely set off the kerosene I can guess but I like the little details lol.
I think ya’ll know I’m voting crucifixion for these fecal stains
in the underwear of humanity. No one who does this kinda
thing deserves a merciful end.
up to a certain point,, they can be saved.. it is a slow death of exhaustion an asphyxiation..
which can last days..
i’m all for , impalement ,. do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.!
for Red an Janice,, lethal injection,.
crucifixion was / is a ‘example determent’ for “Others” not the crucified..
Crucifixion I believe was mainly used as a way to punish traitors and heretics and was done
in open fields or on hills so the population could see what happens etc…
I would say if the need was to just remove these problems a quick and clean method
in private would be ideal.
That said I do not favor that because the need to remind those who need to defile others
to be “happy” that it’s a very bad idea. If their need is so great raise sheep few would care
what sick things you do to the livestock in the barn and they would be contributing something
to society.
While there is the visceral desire for “revenge” or “make them suffer”,
the scum have spent too much time in our head already. No need
to give them more lurid rent-free space in nightmares. A .45 between
the eyes, toss the garbage into the incinerator, some counseling,
and try to move on.
My statement of this was posted above before you posed the question.
I was the alternate on a capital murder trial. The perp murdered
3 people at 3 different locations in one night.
As an alternate I sat by myself in a separate room. However, I saw and heard
all the evidence, and felt intellectually bound to make my own decision.
That is, I could not say not my problem, they didn’t need me,
I don’t have to think about it.
During jury selection I made it clear that I would prefer
not to give the death penalty.
Results: guilty on all counts, recommend the death penalty.
My decision: I concurred.
His death would not deter anyone. Society must protect itself
just as the body protects itself from an infection.
I still would prefer not to give the death penalty.
My concern in the case/problem before us here,
is not for the perps, but for the mental health of the
people who has the carry out the execution, including
standing by for the hours or days for death to come.
You would have to temper Justice and the evils of State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence.
One of the methods still used today in the Middle and Far East countries, for a quick an near painless execution
is decapitation.
Although unfortunately, even with this method, when you don’t have the skill or care or sense required, even the
executioner can be injured or killed.
Also, blunt or poorly maintained devices not only don’t cut well, the process is messy and gruesome.
Which gets back to my quote about “State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence” becoming an issue.
However, be that as it may, decapitation may be performed with either a bladed axe like weapon or a heavy sword.
When required, the industrial killing solution, the French Guillotine, also comes to mind.
As for Crucifixion, or impalement, or Death by fire and other slow violent and deadly punishments, these methods
were always the State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence option.
However, given the times and instances when it was deployed, mostly it was deployed in societies when it’s use
was considered appropriate.
Where the State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence option is deployed today, those that run
the societies where it’s used are as depraved, or even more depraved, as those they would punish.
The more civilized options, including decapitation, are generally quick and clean, and behind the prison walls.
Also, cleaning up the mess is far less of an issue.
As is removing the body or bodies and attending to their final disposal.
Keep in mind all the options you’re mentioning were performed in the “square” and open to the public
crucifixions were carried out on hill tops or just outside of the town so passerby’s could “enjoy the show”
as well…
The Empire isn’t a medieval throwback any execution would be carried out as cleanly and in a controlled
manner not as after-dinner entertainment as were most of the executions then. “We got a juicy one!”
won’t be called out etc… Blame movies it’s given all of us a horrible vision of how the older means were
and have little to do with “updated” means will no doubt be used no huge spike nails bloodily driven
through the hands and feet as in the bible it’s basically being strapped to a post and left to die by dehydration.
The same could be done by locking them in a plain empty cell for 2 weeks. Crucifixion is only slightly faster
and would give them the similar treatment they gave their victims minus the horrible pain they gave them.
Hanging.
It’s quick if done right. No one has time to
feel compassion and going by tradition?
Let them hang until the bodies fall from rot as a warning.
It also limits it to one executioner.
For a hanging to be done right it needs to be at least 6 ft and the noose has to be positioned
right at the back of the neck otherwise while their neck might break it won’t sever the spinal cord
and they swing there twitching until they pass. Guess how often that happened? I suffered an
accident in ’83 crushed 2 vertebra spent months learning how to walk again trust me only thing
worse is being on fire when it comes to pain.
I agree with Iain and it’s similar to something I said before. There is a world of difference between
what these vermin deserve and what Society deserves. The examples we see in the world around
us of societies that use barbarous means of execution are in general not to be emulated. And I think
the vermin MIGHT just enjoy the pain, or feel justified by it, that it shows all people are deep down
just like them. And they brought that fact to light. I don’t want to give them even the chance of that
satisfaction.
If I were voting, I would’ve suggested the punishment meted out to those Waukandan raiders – impalement and immolation. But really that would be too quick. Then I thought of something which allow the punishment to fit the crime – or at least be symmetrical to the crime. If I were running things I’d let Flea have them to “work her magic” on with the others looking on. Ryder would be last. I’m sure Flea would enjoy the process and there is no way it would cause her any psychological harm. I hope you all can see the symmetry to letting Flea work on them one at a time.
A note about impalement. It, too was an ancient method of execution. Vlad Tepes (Vlad the impaler aka Vlad Dracul) had a special fondness for impalement. As practiced in ancient times impalement was neither swift nor pleasant. Nor did it always (or usually) involve sharpened objects. It also did not consist of the condemned being “seated” upon the impaling implement. If the condemned were “seated” as PC illustrated last year the condemned could easily fall off and have to be repositioned. As done by most peoples, impalement involved a somewhat rounded/i> stake and the condemned hung upon it with the stake catching them just behind/below the sternum. That way their weight would keep them on the stake without fear of them falling off. With the condemned’s hands tied behind their back it would be a slow death by asphyxiation. To add a bit of “spice” to the mix the condemned would sometimes be given a step to stand – just on tippy toes – to relieve some of the pressure on their diaphragm. The effort of standing on tiptoe and keeping their legs rigid would cause extreme agony in all the muscles of both legs. Done properly, impalement, like crucifixion, could take days for the condemned to finally expire.
Regarding the whole “deterrence” thing, multiple studies have demonstrated that the severity of punishment does nothing to deter crime. What DOES serve – at least to some degree – as a deterrent is the LIKELIHOOD of punishment. If you are likely to get caught and have to put up with the hassle of even a traffic citation you will be more careful – at least where you think you are likely to get caught. I don’t know about where everyone lives but here in Texas a speeding ticket can cost $hundreds. Yet how often do you see idiots doing 90mph on a freeway IN TOWN!? Low probability of being caught/punished means – at least for some – greater likelihood of offending.
Flea’s “talent” is idea for questioning perverts and other manner of “problems” but
death by torture for one or two would be suitable I think she’d be exhausted by time
she finished them all and she’s roughly Tenshi’s age and already teetering on the edge
of madness even she says so! I’d rather her not be used no point on giving her that
last nudge!
You are right, this is why Flea would not get the duty, she’s too fragile.
The other Legionnaires who care about her, including Teresa, would not allow it.
Remember, whenever she has a weekend in town she stays with her adoptive
family and acts like a normal teenage girl. Flea knows what “normal” is,
and wants to achieve it, so there’s hope. She is also receiving counseling
from Legion staff.
I’m glad when that girl was murdered I very nearly took matters in my own hands not only
would it of drove me mad but I would of died in prison instead. I remembered Flea was
getting help and I was pleased about that but keep in mind there’s no such thing as “normal”
only socially acceptable by peers frustrating but true I was never “normal” too boring LOL.
Hindsight is supposedly always 20/20, with that in mind, people are probably right when
they say the survivors would be even more traumatized with long drawn out punishments.
I never thought of it as a deterrent otherwise our jails wouldn’t be over flowing. The
criminal is always smarter than everyone else until he/she gets caught. Then it’s crying
time. So I guess a quick method is better and as notStanley said toss them in the
incinerator and it’s over. I guess I just wanted them to suffer.
I agree Flea should never be considered for anything like this.
Keep in mind that people like Ryder know it’s wrong and know what the results are if caught
their way of thinking is so far gone that it either doesn’t matter or like you say they think
they can “get away with it”. Strong punishments are only effective on those who are considering
it not actually planning it also it is a mental issue they don’t see other’s as human or their
equals only as an annoyance that might be useful for “fun”. And before you say “then maybe
they could be cured” no the first step in dealing with a mental issue, is the patient has to want
to,
just like any addict or alcoholic. You simply can’t make someone care.
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
(panel 8)
“Go into space they said”
“It’ll be fun they said”
“A walk in the park they said”
“Easy pickings they said”
“BRING THOSE m*********KERS UP HERE SO I CAN KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES, I SAYS!!”
I was pondering, why wouldn’t a system that had been settled from space millennia ago not have
more installations than that in orbit. And I think the answer may lie in that very age. If known
settled space is not expanding and there is no war, there is an upper limit to the number of ships
needed for commerce and law enforcement. So, only a few shipyards are needed, and if over the
millenia easy-to-get-to resources like small moons and asteroid belts have been exhausted, the
once-needed installations may have been recycled. But why wouldn’t known settled space still
be expanding? The fact that there is a Fringe and a Core indicates that the web of wormholes
may not go on forever, there may be a finite number of destinations reachable by them.
That also depends on how many on how many such systems exist.
Basically the Wolf Empire has two; Earth and Catia
How many do the core have? Though smaller even just a half dozen could match the Wolf Empire for production
And given two dozen they would be able to out produce the Wolf Empire
(which is how the Americans – and their allies – won the second world war).
That, of course, presumes the have the raw materials and that the Goblins NEED the supply from Aquatane suggests they don’t.
At least not easily without supplies from the fringe worlds.
(Maybe the only location on the core planets with significant heavy minerals are the Planet Cores)
You would think they would know that a race that could drive the humans out would not be quite
such a pushover, and they may think the dragons gave them the Catia’s Pride, but they should
know the dragons would NOT have done so until after the humans were gone or helped get rid
of them — those would have been violations of the mutual defense treaty.
Terrible news for you anime fans:
https://animekisa.tv/alldubbed
Ouch, darn it.
The other sites referred to are nice, but not nearly as well organized.
I will be looking. Thank-you.
Not a big fan myself but I know my son will be upset about it heck he’s started to learn
how to read Japanese I know he has a bit of the spoken word figured out. He’s 33 btw LOL
I vote crucifixion, let them suffer. Last frame “over confident idiots”. Is he looking in a mirror?
No Comment due to personal beliefs.
Stripecoat,
Crucifixion actually predates the Ancient Romans, they borrowed the idea.
Given historical accounts, it was generally reserved for those who were to be
made an example of, or to intimidate those who threatened the Status Quo.
As was also noted, it depended on the Status, and whose quo you managed to run afoul of.
Unfortunately, it was still in regular use in the Western world, up until the late eighteen century.
So yes, many of us whose personal beliefs are offended by the methods used, still need to recognize
that a lot of non Western Locations still employ crucifixion and other savage execution methods as
a first choice, for what we would deem as civil offenses, be they serious or socially offensive,
and petty crime.
So yes, in general, I would prefer, in this context, that it be on the table as a deterrent,
or as option you could face when you get caught and convicted of Serious Criminal Malfeasance..
I second that the rest are too gentle or quick the punishment should match the crime.
But that would require a moose in full rut lol I hope they use the X rather than the
biblical one.
I’m with you there, Scarsdale. An “X” crucifixion, and upside down as well.
Q: how does “drawn and quartered” compare to crucifixion?
It’s a horrible way to die no doubt and messy there was an incident where a rival gang member
had been tied to a light pole and their feet to the back bumper of a car which was started and
left in gear and the other gang left… slow drawn and halved it was about the time the movie
“Ben Hur” was back in the local theaters so someone was inspired.
Crucifixion is on the list and would give those animals time to think before they died however
I think it best if it wasn’t done publicly it could cause someone to try to “rescue” them.
PS too bad they don’t have impalement.
I know it’s over the top, but they were
too far gone.
Hmmm… I think impalement would be too quick anyway,
that came about due to the invention of pikes
in combat can’t pull it free?
Just raise them up and draw your sword.
not combat,, in 1775 BC, king Hammurabi used as a “determent”..
as in the ‘wife’ was impaled for killing her husband for another..
I know I was making light of it pikes were a way of dealing with mounted troops
hardly a close-combat weapon.
That is actually more warships than I expected
although some of them could be armed freighters
The infrastructure is about what I expected, but not that it was larger than anything the core had
and Earth is likely to have even more infrastructure and the main Wolf Empire battle fleet
They have yet to find out the Dogishua have an equally unexpected orbital industry and a battle fleet.
The time line is a bit hazy so it’s hard to say how long they have been building the ships etc…
The dog’s planet is poor in metals so it’d have to be harvested from other sources we really
don’t have a lot of details on their system. Depending on the extent of the shipping structure
and the resources that can be brought in… PC knows…
The Dogishuans were left with the orbital equipment to mine the asteroids
Being an astronomically young planet they do not have the oil and coal fields needed
to kick start an advanced technology even with the necessary knowledge.
And that means they should have a higher percentage of asteroids than older systems.
Considering they expect the war, probably with piracy and commerce raiding involved,
the freighters are probably all armed.
It is interesting to know the extend, or lack of it, of stellar infrastructure.
It sounds like the Core Worlds are not really using the full potential of a star system.
If time is not a factor, it can easier and cheaper to exploit other people.
But it really limits the available resources and possibilities.
If I’m right, that’s a rather rare setup. I’ve only rarely read about one like that,
but most of them had at least some stellar infrastructure in the home system(s).
If I remember correctly Ulroth’s Dream mistook an armed freighter of the Cats for a Dreadnaught.
(If it wasn’t them then it was someone else; perhaps Captain Menga when she first met the Cats)
I am thinking the same thing is happening here and most, if not all, of the eleven ‘warships’ are actually armed freighters
However that doesn’t mean they are any less capable militarily than the warships they have been mistaken for.
“If ’twas done, ’twas best done quickly.”
Anger for the deeds might say crucifixion.
However, concern for trauma to those given the
the job suggests lethal injection or firing squad.
And now the fun begins I’m sure these “demons” will turn tail and report back ASAP
I doubt they will try to take on the fleet that they are looking at lol. If The Catians
have that big of a fleet just imagine the size of the Terran fleet must be by now!
I was a bit surprised at the choices I only knew hanging and the Legions little bonfire
from page 755 (another bunch on Ryder’s level of depravity). I’d still like to see how
they remotely set off the kerosene I can guess but I like the little details lol.
Someone HAD to say 42.
Thank You, PC. Reference to my all-time favorite series of absolutely nutty novels.
In light of the nature of the offenses, impalement does have a certain allure.
I think ya’ll know I’m voting crucifixion for these fecal stains
in the underwear of humanity. No one who does this kinda
thing deserves a merciful end.
Amen!
What would be the non-emotional argument against crucifixion?
Or in favor of another method? I’d like to hear all sides of this discussion.
up to a certain point,, they can be saved.. it is a slow death of exhaustion an asphyxiation..
which can last days..
i’m all for , impalement ,. do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.!
for Red an Janice,, lethal injection,.
crucifixion was / is a ‘example determent’ for “Others” not the crucified..
Crucifixion I believe was mainly used as a way to punish traitors and heretics and was done
in open fields or on hills so the population could see what happens etc…
I would say if the need was to just remove these problems a quick and clean method
in private would be ideal.
That said I do not favor that because the need to remind those who need to defile others
to be “happy” that it’s a very bad idea. If their need is so great raise sheep few would care
what sick things you do to the livestock in the barn and they would be contributing something
to society.
While there is the visceral desire for “revenge” or “make them suffer”,
the scum have spent too much time in our head already. No need
to give them more lurid rent-free space in nightmares. A .45 between
the eyes, toss the garbage into the incinerator, some counseling,
and try to move on.
My statement of this was posted above before you posed the question.
I was the alternate on a capital murder trial. The perp murdered
3 people at 3 different locations in one night.
As an alternate I sat by myself in a separate room. However, I saw and heard
all the evidence, and felt intellectually bound to make my own decision.
That is, I could not say not my problem, they didn’t need me,
I don’t have to think about it.
During jury selection I made it clear that I would prefer
not to give the death penalty.
Results: guilty on all counts, recommend the death penalty.
My decision: I concurred.
His death would not deter anyone. Society must protect itself
just as the body protects itself from an infection.
I still would prefer not to give the death penalty.
My concern in the case/problem before us here,
is not for the perps, but for the mental health of the
people who has the carry out the execution, including
standing by for the hours or days for death to come.
Petercat,
You would have to temper Justice and the evils of State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence.
One of the methods still used today in the Middle and Far East countries, for a quick an near painless execution
is decapitation.
Although unfortunately, even with this method, when you don’t have the skill or care or sense required, even the
executioner can be injured or killed.
Also, blunt or poorly maintained devices not only don’t cut well, the process is messy and gruesome.
Which gets back to my quote about “State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence” becoming an issue.
However, be that as it may, decapitation may be performed with either a bladed axe like weapon or a heavy sword.
When required, the industrial killing solution, the French Guillotine, also comes to mind.
As for Crucifixion, or impalement, or Death by fire and other slow violent and deadly punishments, these methods
were always the State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence option.
However, given the times and instances when it was deployed, mostly it was deployed in societies when it’s use
was considered appropriate.
Where the State Sanctioned bloody minded revenge and excessive violence option is deployed today, those that run
the societies where it’s used are as depraved, or even more depraved, as those they would punish.
The more civilized options, including decapitation, are generally quick and clean, and behind the prison walls.
Also, cleaning up the mess is far less of an issue.
As is removing the body or bodies and attending to their final disposal.
Keep in mind all the options you’re mentioning were performed in the “square” and open to the public
crucifixions were carried out on hill tops or just outside of the town so passerby’s could “enjoy the show”
as well…
The Empire isn’t a medieval throwback any execution would be carried out as cleanly and in a controlled
manner not as after-dinner entertainment as were most of the executions then. “We got a juicy one!”
won’t be called out etc… Blame movies it’s given all of us a horrible vision of how the older means were
and have little to do with “updated” means will no doubt be used no huge spike nails bloodily driven
through the hands and feet as in the bible it’s basically being strapped to a post and left to die by dehydration.
The same could be done by locking them in a plain empty cell for 2 weeks. Crucifixion is only slightly faster
and would give them the similar treatment they gave their victims minus the horrible pain they gave them.
Hanging.
It’s quick if done right. No one has time to
feel compassion and going by tradition?
Let them hang until the bodies fall from rot as a warning.
It also limits it to one executioner.
For a hanging to be done right it needs to be at least 6 ft and the noose has to be positioned
right at the back of the neck otherwise while their neck might break it won’t sever the spinal cord
and they swing there twitching until they pass. Guess how often that happened? I suffered an
accident in ’83 crushed 2 vertebra spent months learning how to walk again trust me only thing
worse is being on fire when it comes to pain.
I’ve once read that if the rope is placed right the pressure on the Adam’s apple would cause unconsciousness within seconds.
I agree with Iain and it’s similar to something I said before. There is a world of difference between
what these vermin deserve and what Society deserves. The examples we see in the world around
us of societies that use barbarous means of execution are in general not to be emulated. And I think
the vermin MIGHT just enjoy the pain, or feel justified by it, that it shows all people are deep down
just like them. And they brought that fact to light. I don’t want to give them even the chance of that
satisfaction.
If I were voting, I would’ve suggested the punishment meted out to those Waukandan raiders – impalement and immolation. But really that would be too quick. Then I thought of something which allow the punishment to fit the crime – or at least be symmetrical to the crime. If I were running things I’d let Flea have them to “work her magic” on with the others looking on. Ryder would be last. I’m sure Flea would enjoy the process and there is no way it would cause her any psychological harm. I hope you all can see the symmetry to letting Flea work on them one at a time.
A note about impalement. It, too was an ancient method of execution. Vlad Tepes (Vlad the impaler aka Vlad Dracul) had a special fondness for impalement. As practiced in ancient times impalement was neither swift nor pleasant. Nor did it always (or usually) involve sharpened objects. It also did not consist of the condemned being “seated” upon the impaling implement. If the condemned were “seated” as PC illustrated last year the condemned could easily fall off and have to be repositioned. As done by most peoples, impalement involved a somewhat rounded/i> stake and the condemned hung upon it with the stake catching them just behind/below the sternum. That way their weight would keep them on the stake without fear of them falling off. With the condemned’s hands tied behind their back it would be a slow death by asphyxiation. To add a bit of “spice” to the mix the condemned would sometimes be given a step to stand – just on tippy toes – to relieve some of the pressure on their diaphragm. The effort of standing on tiptoe and keeping their legs rigid would cause extreme agony in all the muscles of both legs. Done properly, impalement, like crucifixion, could take days for the condemned to finally expire.
Regarding the whole “deterrence” thing, multiple studies have demonstrated that the severity of punishment does nothing to deter crime. What DOES serve – at least to some degree – as a deterrent is the LIKELIHOOD of punishment. If you are likely to get caught and have to put up with the hassle of even a traffic citation you will be more careful – at least where you think you are likely to get caught. I don’t know about where everyone lives but here in Texas a speeding ticket can cost $hundreds. Yet how often do you see idiots doing 90mph on a freeway IN TOWN!? Low probability of being caught/punished means – at least for some – greater likelihood of offending.
point to “Bill Mullins”.. yes yes.. let Flea do IT.!
Flea’s “talent” is idea for questioning perverts and other manner of “problems” but
death by torture for one or two would be suitable I think she’d be exhausted by time
she finished them all and she’s roughly Tenshi’s age and already teetering on the edge
of madness even she says so! I’d rather her not be used no point on giving her that
last nudge!
You are right, this is why Flea would not get the duty, she’s too fragile.
The other Legionnaires who care about her, including Teresa, would not allow it.
Remember, whenever she has a weekend in town she stays with her adoptive
family and acts like a normal teenage girl. Flea knows what “normal” is,
and wants to achieve it, so there’s hope. She is also receiving counseling
from Legion staff.
I’m glad when that girl was murdered I very nearly took matters in my own hands not only
would it of drove me mad but I would of died in prison instead. I remembered Flea was
getting help and I was pleased about that but keep in mind there’s no such thing as “normal”
only socially acceptable by peers frustrating but true I was never “normal” too boring LOL.
Hindsight is supposedly always 20/20, with that in mind, people are probably right when
they say the survivors would be even more traumatized with long drawn out punishments.
I never thought of it as a deterrent otherwise our jails wouldn’t be over flowing. The
criminal is always smarter than everyone else until he/she gets caught. Then it’s crying
time. So I guess a quick method is better and as notStanley said toss them in the
incinerator and it’s over. I guess I just wanted them to suffer.
I agree Flea should never be considered for anything like this.
Keep in mind that people like Ryder know it’s wrong and know what the results are if caught
their way of thinking is so far gone that it either doesn’t matter or like you say they think
they can “get away with it”. Strong punishments are only effective on those who are considering
it not actually planning it also it is a mental issue they don’t see other’s as human or their
equals only as an annoyance that might be useful for “fun”. And before you say “then maybe
they could be cured” no the first step in dealing with a mental issue, is the patient has to want
to,
just like any addict or alcoholic. You simply can’t make someone care.
(panel 8)
“Go into space they said”
“It’ll be fun they said”
“A walk in the park they said”
“Easy pickings they said”
“BRING THOSE m*********KERS UP HERE SO I CAN KICK THEIR COLLECTIVE ASSES, I SAYS!!”
“It’s a good day to die”
I say: “STFU Worf and keep firing!!!”
LOL I wonder how many people wanted to say that to him XD
I was pondering, why wouldn’t a system that had been settled from space millennia ago not have
more installations than that in orbit. And I think the answer may lie in that very age. If known
settled space is not expanding and there is no war, there is an upper limit to the number of ships
needed for commerce and law enforcement. So, only a few shipyards are needed, and if over the
millenia easy-to-get-to resources like small moons and asteroid belts have been exhausted, the
once-needed installations may have been recycled. But why wouldn’t known settled space still
be expanding? The fact that there is a Fringe and a Core indicates that the web of wormholes
may not go on forever, there may be a finite number of destinations reachable by them.
That also depends on how many on how many such systems exist.
Basically the Wolf Empire has two; Earth and Catia
How many do the core have? Though smaller even just a half dozen could match the Wolf Empire for production
And given two dozen they would be able to out produce the Wolf Empire
(which is how the Americans – and their allies – won the second world war).
That, of course, presumes the have the raw materials and that the Goblins NEED the supply from Aquatane suggests they don’t.
At least not easily without supplies from the fringe worlds.
(Maybe the only location on the core planets with significant heavy minerals are the Planet Cores)
You would think they would know that a race that could drive the humans out would not be quite
such a pushover, and they may think the dragons gave them the Catia’s Pride, but they should
know the dragons would NOT have done so until after the humans were gone or helped get rid
of them — those would have been violations of the mutual defense treaty.
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-492/
Panels 7 & 8.