I expected there would be a least one other in the group that didn’t
like the death penalty but she makes a valid point that people like
that are nonredeemable and would in time repeat the same thing
these guys were caught red-handed no what-ifs or doubts.
Palas has his work cut out for him the core has enjoyed too much
luxury for too long to start making changes and the ones that do
want to are afraid of the humans so yeah…
Sometimes, I become what may be more than merely an “Eye for an Eye”
type person.
Having served in two (undeclared) wars with total Active and Reserve
time of 32 years.
and having worked in 3 prisons (2 minimum and 1 maximum facilities)
in 2 states in varying capacities . . .
I find regarding some crimes against persons (the convicts telling
me what they did even when I said I did not want to know) – and for
some, I could not walk away because I was doing Nursing and or ER
procedures – not just passing medications –
and the way they brag to one another regarding their crimes –
I feel a sense in which, if I were in power,
I would employ a type of reverse corollary of the Golden Rule:
To wit:
– “Whatsoever you have done unto your victim(s) –
So also shall it be done likewise unto you”.
At times, it does seem to me that it would be the only way to get
Justice for the victims.
(I know some people would be horrified to hear me say that –
so I normally don’t say it . . . .
but there are times when I damn well think it.)
nm
I grew up in the Gary, Indiana area I seen a lot of sick people and
things the clowns that got my sister drunk and raped were the least
cruel of the things I seen, the worst was a cute 16 y/o girl that
liked as she put it “a sugar cookie rather than a dirty oreo from
the gutter” so yeah i spent some time with her but a “brother” that
was a PCP addict took offense and so in a fit of jealous rage
stabbed her over a dozen times… Wasn’t brave enough to face me…
I got the blame spent 2 days in jail before they figured out I
wasn’t even in town that night. I have no patience for people that
can’t deal with reality and their own mental sickness.
I have zero problems with execution. Ppl can go on about how mistaken
convictions were overturned with DNA. Well, that same DNA can prove
they DID do it. And above that, it is far less reprehensible to
mistakenly convict someone, then to let someone go who IS guilty,
that then goes on to keep keeping on being a shitstain in the
underwear of humanity. Especially when we are talking about
what is here.
And as for crimes against children, and terrorism, I am VERY retributive.
AFAIC, ppl whose crimes are about inflicting maximum pain and misery on
others should be executed in a way that visits the SAME misery and pain
back upon them. My preferred method of execution for such filth would
insure they suffered as their victims did, body and mind.
First, you will need the kind of drugs used in hospitals to help stabilize
patients going into shock, can’t have them dying to fast and escaping what’s
coming. Then you flay them, starting from the toes and working your way up,
finishing with the eyelids. Then you put on fluid filled goggles so their
eyeballs don’t dry out, rendering them blind. Then you douse them in salted
lemon juice, and seal that in with honey. THEN you stake them out over an
ant hill that is surrounded by CCTV’s, strapping their head in place so they
can’t look away from them. So that they have no choice but to watch
themselves be eaten to death by the ants through their lidless eyes.
I have no mercy or forgiveness for those who victimize children.
And not much more for run of the mill murderers, either.
I read somewhere that in the far east men found guilty
of molesting children were tied naked to a post,
honey poured on their genitals, and rats allowed to have dinner.
This was many years ago but in my lifetime.
I’m with Big Red on this one; in my opinion the only justification for the
death penalty is to protect others when the state cannot do so. These people
are sick and the way to permanently remove them from society is to cure them
so the Ryder types need to be incarcerated and studied.
There is also the possibility (unlikely in the Ryder case) of an erroneous
conviction. Let’s take the incident below that Scarsdale refers to. Imagine
this; he is on the way home just after visiting the girl when the attack
takes place, stops for a burger, and a gust of wind blows the car door into
his nose; not hard enough to cause a bruise or cut but it does cause him to
sneeze. Not having a tissue or hankie handy he wipes his nose with his sleeve
unaware it includes a trace of blood that stains his shirt cuff. He is also
not aware he happens to have the same blood type as the girl. He stays a half
hour. On arriving home the cops are waiting for him throw him in jail, and
quickly find the blood stain. With circumstances pointing to him, a matching
blood stain he doesn’t know where it came from, the diner staff not remembering
him, and no security camera footage he is convicted of 1st degree murder.
If a death penalty is then imposed and carried out it is too late to say “sorry,
you didn’t deserve that” when someone asks “Hey, did you check if the DNA of the
bloodstain matches the DNA of the girl?
i get your point,, but DNA don’t work that way.!
matching DNA type would mean they were twins..
and in this case “blood type” would mean nothing.
now change the scene, SHE bumped her nose an
blead on him (not noticed),, same out come..
Do you mean that two DNA samples from one person
do not necessarily give the same result?
(the hypothetical situation is based on the girl’s sample and the
sleeve sample NOT matching proves the sleeve sample was not from the
girl).
Or that samples from two different individuals can give the same
result? (which would negate the very basics of genetic evidence).
These days a complete genome of a human can be done in a couple
of hours and even identical twins do not have an identical genome.
Different story if they only do a partial test for certain
markers though.
(Then the argument becomes statistical based on the probability that
X matches implies Y probability the samples came from the one person.)
no, by your first statement .. his blood on him. but they have the same
blood type,,. what i was saying is,, big deal, blood is blood.. they don’t
test for type.. they test for DNA.
so.. it would have to be her blood (by accident) for them to go further..
since 1983, there are over 180 false death penalty convictions..
but there are more than 50 known active serial killers (3 or more
victims per.) that was released on a technicality..
also they did the studies (serial an pedo’s),. an except in very rare
cases, there is no cure for them,. they will keep doing what they do
untill death.. and in most cases will pass it off to offspring..
That is exactly my point too often these types get away to commit their crimes over and over
due to a simple mistake by the police and in one case I know of a paperwork snafu that released
one 20 years early.
In 1978 there was no DNA testing it was strictly hard evidence and police opinions I owned no
knife I had no bloodstained clothes my car was clean luckily my sensi had heard
about it and confirmed I was with him and 4 others training that night in another town.
Cops didn’t let me call anyone they just wanted an easy collar they even told me she was alive
and if I told them why I did it they’d let me see her.
I’m not talking about a single incident I’m talking about serial offenders that are driven to commit
their crimes against people with what ever perversions they have with no remorse or fear.
by all rights.. your case right there.. was a thrown out snafu..
i agree.. three strike rule.. if they have proven 1 or 2 didn’t
work.. then they have proven that they don’t need to be in
society..
study.? in the rare cases yes.. the others have been studied..
in the early 1900’s there were over 400 cases of “rich” put in
mental ward so the ‘state’ could get their money…
She had bled out or I wouldn’t of had a few drops I would of been
covered and yes DNA would of settled it and saved me 48 hours of
accusations, threats, and outright lies. Never mind I liked this
girl and might of even married her down the road. The only thing
I was guilty of is being the wrong color and being a trained
martial artist.
Yes the whole point of capital punishment is to protect the public.
It is also essential to do real investigation
so that horrible mistakes are not made.
The obvious problem here for the Catians is they are an untried and
risky proposition.
Short of suddenly opening up the equivalent of the East India spice
trade, or similar high value product or service, the hard slog is
usually the only way to go to get runs on the board.
Although, in their favor they have better vessels, better crews,
cheaper transport costs and an alliance backed by the Empire. As
opposed to simply being a one planet wonder late to the space-
faring party.
Also, inevitably, they will likely come into direct conflict with
other more dubious and morally challenged space-faring races.
Overcoming those conflicts with the aid of Empire technology and
Troops would be one way of creating a solid reputation.
However, as that all may be, we can but wait and see.
“in their favor they have better vessels, better crews, cheaper
transport costs and an alliance backed by the Empire”
Even more important (IMnsHO) is that the Catians and Terrans are
honorable. While they are undoubtedly out to make a profit, being
honorable they will not do so at their customer’s expense. All the
fringe-worlders have known is being cheated, exploited and gouged
by core world traders. I figure that after a year of fair dealing
on the part of the Cats most fringe worlds will come to support
Catia. I guess time (and PC) will tell.
Consider, they are talking out in the open where everyone with the
cheapest microphone can listen in.
Why should they be surprised that the Dogishuans accepted an invitation
to the Catia’s Pride? Their King joined the Empire and has one or more
ships on the way to tell his people which occupy other planets as
mercenaries that they will soon be cut off and that they will extract
them if they can. It’s safe to assume that they had documents to prove
this to the Dogishuan ambassador.
This is a play. They are lulling the opposition into a false sense of
security.
“We are Fringe Bumpkins and have no idea how to play this game. We have
a lot of resources with a little population and are behind in technology.”
The Core Worlds think they are playing chess, but in truth it’s Stratego.
Ah yes I remember Stratego very good analogy in both games you set
up your opponent to walk into a trap but chess is much easier to
read the traps but Stratego you just don’t know until you until
you attack.
The Empire/Catians are playing the long game but keeping the options
open just in case the core is like an old bear it just wants to be
left alone while it’s snacking on a camper giving you time to lock on
target with a 30-06 rifle.
They’re foxing about their real intent.
And it’s a necessary ploy to keep as many as possible (even those to
support them) in the dark about their contact with the Dogishuans.
A better take on the Catians is “We didn’t want to be made and we
didn’t ask to be thrust into our position we are only trying to be
free and make our way we only ask to be a member and gain the
respect of our peers.”
Shining the spotlight directly on the core humans and
distracting them from what is really going on.
I am wondering what Janice will make of this. I believe she is good
for what ratings she can get and will she actually report as facts
or with her slant? I know the records are sealed,
but they are open for this ‘jury’.
Ambassador Palas has said they need the human seat before the core
worlds start taking action against them.
Of coarse that was before the suggestion they try for a seat in their
own right but I doubt if this can be the real position as the terrains
are definitely human. And Earth, not Catia, is the home world of the
Wolf Empire.
Another question is are there any other human worlds in the core? (as
distinct from there being humans on any core world) If no maybe they
expect the core worlds to accuse them of attacking Lamnia with the
Cats responding it was Lamnia that first attacked the Terrains; and
since Lamnia lost the Terrains had the right to claim the human seat
on council. Should be quite shock to discover the Terrains occupy
the Dragon ‘owned’ system and wonder just how much help the dragons
are giving them. Which should make them very wary of attacking the
Sol system even after the real war breaks out.
If the humans no longer had their seat any move by them against the Catians would
bring the council’s forces against them that is all he’s saying it would give them a huge
advantage in a war which the core humans currently have. They can’t beat the Catian’s
tech but numbers can make up the difference. Plus even if they won there would be lingering
resentment of the Catians by the other races. They are playing the wronged victims not
conquering hero’s to the galaxy.
It occurs to me that the Frog’s (Ka Eru?) objection to giving the Cats
a new seat is likely the one being fed to the Outer Worlds by the Core
Worlds. It may be significant how it lines up with Mitchell’s strategy
he proposed to Pallas. And that feeds my feeling that Mitchell is in
fact a tool of the Core worlds, not serving Lamia any more, much less
the human species. It reminds me of the days between the formation of
the UN and the dissolution of the Soviet Union when Belarus and Ukraine
were members of the general assembly in their own right, the two
republics arguably most like the “Great” Russians or “True” Russians,
called in fact “White” Russians and “Black” Russians. While the other
republics, less ethnically connected, had no such representation, much
less countries in the “Russian Federation” like Chechnya and Tuva that
are still not independent.
This situation is going to get far more complicated, both because it
is clear that NO ONE can speak for all humans. (Couldn’t before the
Empire came on the scene, the Southern Worlds were clearly
disenfranchised on this level.) And by the fact that the Empire now
numbers several species that DO have their own seats. There is no
solution I can see that everyone is going to see as fair, or in their
own self interest. I begin to think the Empire is right and it will
take a war to get to a new status quo. As to the debate above, I have
said that there are two words I’d like to have stricken from the
Constitution. In the prohibition of “cruel and unusual” punishments,
I’m all for being civilized, but there are crimes that really deserve
unusual, nay, unique and creative punishments.
Amen for that! That sick s.o.b. should of been stripped naked covered
in paper cuts and hung upside down in a cave filled with vampire bats
for a week… just my feelings on the matter… On a good note I know
he didn’t last a year in prison wasn’t as satisfying but I took it.
Until medical science can understand the brain well enough to “fix”
the mentally ill there isn’t much that can be done and they are a
danger to themselves and others you can’t say “Oh I understand you
can’t help it” pat them on the head and forgive it. A sociopath just
lacks basic human understanding they don’t feel anything so they do
things that let them feel something and it never ends well or is
enough for them.
Everybody says they want justice. However, what they
usually really want is either revenge or mercy.
The difference being dependent on if they are the
victim or perpetrator.
sheeple,, that type of ‘people’ i call sheeple..
they do know what they want.. 1) food/water,
2) shelter/protection, and 3) a reason,. a
reason to live/be..
over half (closer to 90%) of the worlds
population are like that,. pick a country,
completely change the government
(kingdom to totalitarian), but not change
the “peoples” life at all,, they would care less..
There is a reason the Bible refers to people as sheep.
Most people need a shepherd and seldom get a good one.
Its a sad old situation.
Some human beings were born to shepherd.
No we want to be safe and our loved ones to be safe it’s that simple.
Yes I wanted revenge on many levels no one has ever bothered to say
that to me before “thanks” for that. Justice and revenge aren’t that
different our entire legal system is based on revenge if you think
about it. I can always tell when someone has never truly dealt with
situations like that. My sister didn’t have mercy, those girls
didn’t have mercy, why should the sick bastards that did it have any?
It’s an observation(food for thought), not an accusation.
Yes, when my sister was a passenger in the front seat of a car
hit head on by a drunk driver I felt a desire for revenge.
She was in her last year of her RN degree work and
because of the head injury she had to repeat the entire year.
We frequently do not give judges the sympathy they deserve.
The scales Lady Justice holds, and by extension the judge,
only has two pans. However, in reality the judge must balance
many things ; the law, the evidence, punishment, revenge,
the good of society, and yes mercy.
I expected there would be a least one other in the group that didn’t
like the death penalty but she makes a valid point that people like
that are nonredeemable and would in time repeat the same thing
these guys were caught red-handed no what-ifs or doubts.
Palas has his work cut out for him the core has enjoyed too much
luxury for too long to start making changes and the ones that do
want to are afraid of the humans so yeah…
Sometimes, I become what may be more than merely an “Eye for an Eye”
type person.
Having served in two (undeclared) wars with total Active and Reserve
time of 32 years.
and having worked in 3 prisons (2 minimum and 1 maximum facilities)
in 2 states in varying capacities . . .
I find regarding some crimes against persons (the convicts telling
me what they did even when I said I did not want to know) – and for
some, I could not walk away because I was doing Nursing and or ER
procedures – not just passing medications –
and the way they brag to one another regarding their crimes –
I feel a sense in which, if I were in power,
I would employ a type of reverse corollary of the Golden Rule:
To wit:
– “Whatsoever you have done unto your victim(s) –
So also shall it be done likewise unto you”.
At times, it does seem to me that it would be the only way to get
Justice for the victims.
(I know some people would be horrified to hear me say that –
so I normally don’t say it . . . .
but there are times when I damn well think it.)
nm
I grew up in the Gary, Indiana area I seen a lot of sick people and
things the clowns that got my sister drunk and raped were the least
cruel of the things I seen, the worst was a cute 16 y/o girl that
liked as she put it “a sugar cookie rather than a dirty oreo from
the gutter” so yeah i spent some time with her but a “brother” that
was a PCP addict took offense and so in a fit of jealous rage
stabbed her over a dozen times… Wasn’t brave enough to face me…
I got the blame spent 2 days in jail before they figured out I
wasn’t even in town that night. I have no patience for people that
can’t deal with reality and their own mental sickness.
I have zero problems with execution. Ppl can go on about how mistaken
convictions were overturned with DNA. Well, that same DNA can prove
they DID do it. And above that, it is far less reprehensible to
mistakenly convict someone, then to let someone go who IS guilty,
that then goes on to keep keeping on being a shitstain in the
underwear of humanity. Especially when we are talking about
what is here.
And as for crimes against children, and terrorism, I am VERY retributive.
AFAIC, ppl whose crimes are about inflicting maximum pain and misery on
others should be executed in a way that visits the SAME misery and pain
back upon them. My preferred method of execution for such filth would
insure they suffered as their victims did, body and mind.
First, you will need the kind of drugs used in hospitals to help stabilize
patients going into shock, can’t have them dying to fast and escaping what’s
coming. Then you flay them, starting from the toes and working your way up,
finishing with the eyelids. Then you put on fluid filled goggles so their
eyeballs don’t dry out, rendering them blind. Then you douse them in salted
lemon juice, and seal that in with honey. THEN you stake them out over an
ant hill that is surrounded by CCTV’s, strapping their head in place so they
can’t look away from them. So that they have no choice but to watch
themselves be eaten to death by the ants through their lidless eyes.
I have no mercy or forgiveness for those who victimize children.
And not much more for run of the mill murderers, either.
I read somewhere that in the far east men found guilty
of molesting children were tied naked to a post,
honey poured on their genitals, and rats allowed to have dinner.
This was many years ago but in my lifetime.
I’m with Big Red on this one; in my opinion the only justification for the
death penalty is to protect others when the state cannot do so. These people
are sick and the way to permanently remove them from society is to cure them
so the Ryder types need to be incarcerated and studied.
There is also the possibility (unlikely in the Ryder case) of an erroneous
conviction. Let’s take the incident below that Scarsdale refers to. Imagine
this; he is on the way home just after visiting the girl when the attack
takes place, stops for a burger, and a gust of wind blows the car door into
his nose; not hard enough to cause a bruise or cut but it does cause him to
sneeze. Not having a tissue or hankie handy he wipes his nose with his sleeve
unaware it includes a trace of blood that stains his shirt cuff. He is also
not aware he happens to have the same blood type as the girl. He stays a half
hour. On arriving home the cops are waiting for him throw him in jail, and
quickly find the blood stain. With circumstances pointing to him, a matching
blood stain he doesn’t know where it came from, the diner staff not remembering
him, and no security camera footage he is convicted of 1st degree murder.
If a death penalty is then imposed and carried out it is too late to say “sorry,
you didn’t deserve that” when someone asks “Hey, did you check if the DNA of the
bloodstain matches the DNA of the girl?
i get your point,, but DNA don’t work that way.!
matching DNA type would mean they were twins..
and in this case “blood type” would mean nothing.
now change the scene, SHE bumped her nose an
blead on him (not noticed),, same out come..
Do you mean that two DNA samples from one person
do not necessarily give the same result?
(the hypothetical situation is based on the girl’s sample and the
sleeve sample NOT matching proves the sleeve sample was not from the
girl).
Or that samples from two different individuals can give the same
result? (which would negate the very basics of genetic evidence).
These days a complete genome of a human can be done in a couple
of hours and even identical twins do not have an identical genome.
Different story if they only do a partial test for certain
markers though.
(Then the argument becomes statistical based on the probability that
X matches implies Y probability the samples came from the one person.)
no, by your first statement .. his blood on him. but they have the same
blood type,,. what i was saying is,, big deal, blood is blood.. they don’t
test for type.. they test for DNA.
so.. it would have to be her blood (by accident) for them to go further..
Point and match to you
since 1983, there are over 180 false death penalty convictions..
but there are more than 50 known active serial killers (3 or more
victims per.) that was released on a technicality..
also they did the studies (serial an pedo’s),. an except in very rare
cases, there is no cure for them,. they will keep doing what they do
untill death.. and in most cases will pass it off to offspring..
That is exactly my point too often these types get away to commit their crimes over and over
due to a simple mistake by the police and in one case I know of a paperwork snafu that released
one 20 years early.
In 1978 there was no DNA testing it was strictly hard evidence and police opinions I owned no
knife I had no bloodstained clothes my car was clean luckily my sensi had heard
about it and confirmed I was with him and 4 others training that night in another town.
Cops didn’t let me call anyone they just wanted an easy collar they even told me she was alive
and if I told them why I did it they’d let me see her.
I’m not talking about a single incident I’m talking about serial offenders that are driven to commit
their crimes against people with what ever perversions they have with no remorse or fear.
by all rights.. your case right there.. was a thrown out snafu..
i agree.. three strike rule.. if they have proven 1 or 2 didn’t
work.. then they have proven that they don’t need to be in
society..
That is why repeat offenders should be permanently
incarcerated and studied; and if their financial
position allows it, pay the cost of doing so.
study.? in the rare cases yes.. the others have been studied..
in the early 1900’s there were over 400 cases of “rich” put in
mental ward so the ‘state’ could get their money…
She had bled out or I wouldn’t of had a few drops I would of been
covered and yes DNA would of settled it and saved me 48 hours of
accusations, threats, and outright lies. Never mind I liked this
girl and might of even married her down the road. The only thing
I was guilty of is being the wrong color and being a trained
martial artist.
Yes the whole point of capital punishment is to protect the public.
It is also essential to do real investigation
so that horrible mistakes are not made.
The obvious problem here for the Catians is they are an untried and
risky proposition.
Short of suddenly opening up the equivalent of the East India spice
trade, or similar high value product or service, the hard slog is
usually the only way to go to get runs on the board.
Although, in their favor they have better vessels, better crews,
cheaper transport costs and an alliance backed by the Empire. As
opposed to simply being a one planet wonder late to the space-
faring party.
Also, inevitably, they will likely come into direct conflict with
other more dubious and morally challenged space-faring races.
Overcoming those conflicts with the aid of Empire technology and
Troops would be one way of creating a solid reputation.
However, as that all may be, we can but wait and see.
“in their favor they have better vessels, better crews, cheaper
transport costs and an alliance backed by the Empire”
Even more important (IMnsHO) is that the Catians and Terrans are
honorable. While they are undoubtedly out to make a profit, being
honorable they will not do so at their customer’s expense. All the
fringe-worlders have known is being cheated, exploited and gouged
by core world traders. I figure that after a year of fair dealing
on the part of the Cats most fringe worlds will come to support
Catia. I guess time (and PC) will tell.
Consider, they are talking out in the open where everyone with the
cheapest microphone can listen in.
Why should they be surprised that the Dogishuans accepted an invitation
to the Catia’s Pride? Their King joined the Empire and has one or more
ships on the way to tell his people which occupy other planets as
mercenaries that they will soon be cut off and that they will extract
them if they can. It’s safe to assume that they had documents to prove
this to the Dogishuan ambassador.
This is a play. They are lulling the opposition into a false sense of
security.
“We are Fringe Bumpkins and have no idea how to play this game. We have
a lot of resources with a little population and are behind in technology.”
The Core Worlds think they are playing chess, but in truth it’s Stratego.
surprised,, it is part of the ruse,,.. the core don’t
know, an they want to keep it that way.!!!
Ah yes I remember Stratego very good analogy in both games you set
up your opponent to walk into a trap but chess is much easier to
read the traps but Stratego you just don’t know until you until
you attack.
The Empire/Catians are playing the long game but keeping the options
open just in case the core is like an old bear it just wants to be
left alone while it’s snacking on a camper giving you time to lock on
target with a 30-06 rifle.
They’re foxing about their real intent.
And it’s a necessary ploy to keep as many as possible (even those to
support them) in the dark about their contact with the Dogishuans.
A better take on the Catians is “We didn’t want to be made and we
didn’t ask to be thrust into our position we are only trying to be
free and make our way we only ask to be a member and gain the
respect of our peers.”
Shining the spotlight directly on the core humans and
distracting them from what is really going on.
I am wondering what Janice will make of this. I believe she is good
for what ratings she can get and will she actually report as facts
or with her slant? I know the records are sealed,
but they are open for this ‘jury’.
She’s a liberal with an agenda and a need for ratings you KNOW she’ll spin it
to make the king and the empress look bad.
Ambassador Palas has said they need the human seat before the core
worlds start taking action against them.
Of coarse that was before the suggestion they try for a seat in their
own right but I doubt if this can be the real position as the terrains
are definitely human. And Earth, not Catia, is the home world of the
Wolf Empire.
Another question is are there any other human worlds in the core? (as
distinct from there being humans on any core world) If no maybe they
expect the core worlds to accuse them of attacking Lamnia with the
Cats responding it was Lamnia that first attacked the Terrains; and
since Lamnia lost the Terrains had the right to claim the human seat
on council. Should be quite shock to discover the Terrains occupy
the Dragon ‘owned’ system and wonder just how much help the dragons
are giving them. Which should make them very wary of attacking the
Sol system even after the real war breaks out.
If the humans no longer had their seat any move by them against the Catians would
bring the council’s forces against them that is all he’s saying it would give them a huge
advantage in a war which the core humans currently have. They can’t beat the Catian’s
tech but numbers can make up the difference. Plus even if they won there would be lingering
resentment of the Catians by the other races. They are playing the wronged victims not
conquering hero’s to the galaxy.
It occurs to me that the Frog’s (Ka Eru?) objection to giving the Cats
a new seat is likely the one being fed to the Outer Worlds by the Core
Worlds. It may be significant how it lines up with Mitchell’s strategy
he proposed to Pallas. And that feeds my feeling that Mitchell is in
fact a tool of the Core worlds, not serving Lamia any more, much less
the human species. It reminds me of the days between the formation of
the UN and the dissolution of the Soviet Union when Belarus and Ukraine
were members of the general assembly in their own right, the two
republics arguably most like the “Great” Russians or “True” Russians,
called in fact “White” Russians and “Black” Russians. While the other
republics, less ethnically connected, had no such representation, much
less countries in the “Russian Federation” like Chechnya and Tuva that
are still not independent.
This situation is going to get far more complicated, both because it
is clear that NO ONE can speak for all humans. (Couldn’t before the
Empire came on the scene, the Southern Worlds were clearly
disenfranchised on this level.) And by the fact that the Empire now
numbers several species that DO have their own seats. There is no
solution I can see that everyone is going to see as fair, or in their
own self interest. I begin to think the Empire is right and it will
take a war to get to a new status quo. As to the debate above, I have
said that there are two words I’d like to have stricken from the
Constitution. In the prohibition of “cruel and unusual” punishments,
I’m all for being civilized, but there are crimes that really deserve
unusual, nay, unique and creative punishments.
Amen for that! That sick s.o.b. should of been stripped naked covered
in paper cuts and hung upside down in a cave filled with vampire bats
for a week… just my feelings on the matter… On a good note I know
he didn’t last a year in prison wasn’t as satisfying but I took it.
Until medical science can understand the brain well enough to “fix”
the mentally ill there isn’t much that can be done and they are a
danger to themselves and others you can’t say “Oh I understand you
can’t help it” pat them on the head and forgive it. A sociopath just
lacks basic human understanding they don’t feel anything so they do
things that let them feel something and it never ends well or is
enough for them.
Everybody says they want justice. However, what they
usually really want is either revenge or mercy.
The difference being dependent on if they are the
victim or perpetrator.
People don’t know what they want.
They want to be comfortable in my opinion.
sheeple,, that type of ‘people’ i call sheeple..
they do know what they want.. 1) food/water,
2) shelter/protection, and 3) a reason,. a
reason to live/be..
over half (closer to 90%) of the worlds
population are like that,. pick a country,
completely change the government
(kingdom to totalitarian), but not change
the “peoples” life at all,, they would care less..
There is a reason the Bible refers to people as sheep.
Most people need a shepherd and seldom get a good one.
Its a sad old situation.
Some human beings were born to shepherd.
No we want to be safe and our loved ones to be safe it’s that simple.
Yes I wanted revenge on many levels no one has ever bothered to say
that to me before “thanks” for that. Justice and revenge aren’t that
different our entire legal system is based on revenge if you think
about it. I can always tell when someone has never truly dealt with
situations like that. My sister didn’t have mercy, those girls
didn’t have mercy, why should the sick bastards that did it have any?
It’s an observation(food for thought), not an accusation.
Yes, when my sister was a passenger in the front seat of a car
hit head on by a drunk driver I felt a desire for revenge.
She was in her last year of her RN degree work and
because of the head injury she had to repeat the entire year.
We frequently do not give judges the sympathy they deserve.
The scales Lady Justice holds, and by extension the judge,
only has two pans. However, in reality the judge must balance
many things ; the law, the evidence, punishment, revenge,
the good of society, and yes mercy.
same but different.! same = both, people were hurt, an wanted justice..
different = one did not intentionally go out to do bodily harm,. like these.