I don’t remember if Kubrick brought it out in the film (it’s been a very long time since I last watched it) but HAL did not “go” insane, he was driven insane by the mission planners back on Earth. Bowman and Poole were merely “bus drivers” to get Discovery 1 out to Jupiter. The “real” crew were the guys who were in cryosleep – brought on board in that state ostensibly to reduce use of consumables but in fact so that Bowman and Poole would not know the real, ultra secret purpose of the mission. HAL was ordered (he could not simply be programmed like a normal computer) to lie to Bowman and Poole about the real purpose of the mission. This set up a deep seated sort of “cognitive dissonance” (something not at all healthy for us homo saps, BTW) in HAL’s consciousness which ultimately drove him insane. Poor HAL was every bit as much a victim as the rest of the crew. Damned spooks and their compulsive need for secrecy!
no,, not in the film, ‘it was mentioned as a possibility.” but not expanded on..
but it was explained in the novel,. an since the novel came out ‘after’ , Clarke used it to explain what was left out of the movie..
also,, in the movie there was more than one AI.. and they kept asking (Sal, tho not named yet..) why Hal was acting that way..
IE: why did he (Hal) lie about the dish being broken, when he knew it was not..
It’s kind of complicated. Essentially, the explanation in 2010, was that Hal had been programmed to be absolutely honest with the crew of the Discovery, but due to the discovery of the Monolith on the moon, and the subsequent transition to the Monolith in orbit with Io, the heads of the mission changed the mission and told Hal to lie to the crew, causing a feedback loop that essentially drove him crazy.
Either that, or there was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich that got mashed up into his processor boards, as told in the book, “2001: A Space Odyssey”.
That’s Aral’s ride. It was the first thing he could grab when Christine called him. 4 wheels.
Other NCOs and such use it also, it’s a perk. http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-832/ panel 3.
What! In frame four, no bannister to slide down. Jonathan’s house is no fun.
Earlier in the story Jonathan had a girlfriend. She managed the MA schools.
He still does, and she still does.
More then one AI? Oh, boy! Let the fun and games begin!
(And I’m feeling more “relaxed” about Esmay not going “HAL”)
I don’t remember if Kubrick brought it out in the film (it’s been a very long time since I last watched it) but HAL did not “go” insane, he was driven insane by the mission planners back on Earth. Bowman and Poole were merely “bus drivers” to get Discovery 1 out to Jupiter. The “real” crew were the guys who were in cryosleep – brought on board in that state ostensibly to reduce use of consumables but in fact so that Bowman and Poole would not know the real, ultra secret purpose of the mission. HAL was ordered (he could not simply be programmed like a normal computer) to lie to Bowman and Poole about the real purpose of the mission. This set up a deep seated sort of “cognitive dissonance” (something not at all healthy for us homo saps, BTW) in HAL’s consciousness which ultimately drove him insane. Poor HAL was every bit as much a victim as the rest of the crew. Damned spooks and their compulsive need for secrecy!
no,, not in the film, ‘it was mentioned as a possibility.” but not expanded on..
but it was explained in the novel,. an since the novel came out ‘after’ , Clarke used it to explain what was left out of the movie..
also,, in the movie there was more than one AI.. and they kept asking (Sal, tho not named yet..) why Hal was acting that way..
IE: why did he (Hal) lie about the dish being broken, when he knew it was not..
It’s kind of complicated. Essentially, the explanation in 2010, was that Hal had been programmed to be absolutely honest with the crew of the Discovery, but due to the discovery of the Monolith on the moon, and the subsequent transition to the Monolith in orbit with Io, the heads of the mission changed the mission and told Hal to lie to the crew, causing a feedback loop that essentially drove him crazy.
Either that, or there was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich that got mashed up into his processor boards, as told in the book, “2001: A Space Odyssey”.
Ditto for the daughters trailing dad. Oh, boy! Let the fun and games begin!
Esmay, looks like you are making friend. May not need to “fake” an equipment failure next time you want her to visit.
Excuse me sir, but could you explain why you have a half track in your driveway?
And Esmay seems to have a girl crush on Roxxy…
That’s Aral’s ride. It was the first thing he could grab when Christine called him. 4 wheels.
Other NCOs and such use it also, it’s a perk. http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-832/ panel 3.
Ok, but could you imagine the traffic ticket it would get in this reality?