I’m going to claim a success: I called that the plan was for Gorilla to beat King T’Chaka in hand-to-hand combat and thereby depose him. But boy, was I wrong about Gorilla immediately abdicating!
Did they really plan to have a Legionnaire become the King of Waukanda… without clearing it with Teresa first?
But with Gorilla as King, maybe Waukanda is going to join the Empire! I hadn’t even thought of that possibility! I can’t see it going perfectly and smoothly but goodness knows the people would be better off in the long run.
Petercat: I would like to see some dialog actually documenting what just happened. Pretty please?
Heh-heh. Friday.
I will say this without giving anything away:
With Teresa off-planet, Madea approved of the plan. The Emperor refused
to get involved, as the Legion is for all practical purposes, Teresa’s.
Mark is a friend of Robert’s, he attended their wedding: http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-757/ panel 2.
I think we all guessed the “monkey” would be Gorilla, but I was apparently wrong in assuming the “dog” was “Teresa’s dog” Squirrel. And a Vixen is as close to a dog as a gorilla is to a monkey.
So, so far we have Humans, Dragons, Amphibians, Gorn, Gorillaphants?, Mogwai?, Ratfolk, and Dogishuans, of which only the first two and the last one are real names. (And I look forward to replacing some of those with their real names. And I could be wrong about the last speaker NOT being a Dogishuan, some dog breeds have features nearly that ratlike.) And we haven’t touched the “Core Worlds”. And two offshoot/created species, Catians and Dragonflies. And we don’t know if the Amphibians are one species or two. Clearly there are more than the eight I thought had been quoted early on. Of course, there is room for the original statement that “all” sapient species originated on the same world to be incomplete. Could still be true, could be that the original members of this “Council of Worlds” all originated there but others have been encountered since. However you look at it, though, this is a sudden wealth of new information to speculate about. I half hope a few bits are explained soon, but not everything, not for a long time. (And if any of you can come up with better temporary names until they are revealed in canon, feel free. I really don’t like Gorillaphant or Mogwai.)
i wood say gorillaphants = troll ,, and mogwai = minorey or miners,,,.
and,, by your definition they are all real names… all of them have a back story/ history page somewhere.. tho Gorillaphants is spelled GorillaphEnt…
humans,, duh..
dragon,, same,, could use D&D..
amphibians, Abe Sapien , hell boy.
gorn, star trek ..
Gorillaghents. furry South Carolina.
mogwai , devil, gremlins
ratfolk D&D5e Ysoki
Dogishuans , Cat Planet Cuties..
By “real” I meant “established in canon”. I don’t believe PC has given us a race name for the amphibians, and this is the only appearance so far of the four new ones. I was just tagging them with temporary labels so we could talk about them before we knew more. I really doubt PC will use Gorn for the lizardfolk or BlackLagoonies for the amphibians.
If the Empire is going to be moving in on older species’ traiding territory, it’s a sure thing somebody is gonna be unpleased. Accordingly, I figure the Empire is going to need warships to defend itself. Been playing with an idea for a genuine dreadnaught. First rendering is available on my DA page here: https://www.deviantart.com/bmullins3/gallery Planning on arming it with steerable gun turrets similar to wet Navy ships today plus heavy guns mounted along the long axis of the craft. I would like to have the gang here’s thoughts – ESPECIALLY those of our story teller.
For armament, I’m thinking grav guns with 10 meter diameter emitters pulsing 1 mega-G at 10,000 pulses/sec. Vessel’s main guns will be 20 meters diameter at 20 M-G at 10Khz and mounted along the spaceframe’s long axis. They have to be mounted solidly to the spaceframe to keep them from ripping loose when activated. Way I figure it with the incredibly steep gravity gradient the ship’s guns would produce even the strongest materials would be pounded to dust and ripped apart pretty quickly. Also, There would not be much that could shield from such guns. Organics would cease to exist almost instantaneously in such fields.
i was going back to the gravitic mines idea,, but mount as a missile warhead…
..the problem as described.. ‘with the big guns.’ is it pulls.. so whatever you fire at is coming back at you,, the bigger the gun, the bigger the chunk coming back at you.!
how about a reverse rail gun.. (along the axis of the ship..) instead of magnets along the rails,,, a couple of heavy grav’s unit at the bow, that pulls the round to god rod speeds (maybe relativistic of c) ..?
to make a “conventional gun” you would have to make 2 or 3 small grav units at the muzzle ( to center the round between the units..) and another unit to damp out the impulse of the (probably hypersonic) round leaving…
just a couple of ‘stupid ideas..’
Rob,
Kinetic kill weapons would work okay. I see them using annular grav emitters similar to the could in a coil gun using high speed electronics to stage the emitters/attactractors to incrementally accelerate the projectile. For that sort of weapon the projectiles could be very cheap – say cast concrete. The reason tungsten is envisioned for your “god rods” is primarily for its density. The more dense a material is the less energy it sheds due to atmospheric friction. For projectiles in a space battle tungsten might be overkill since it would be more likely to produce a throug-and-through. Something dense but frangible like concrete would be more likely to deform or crush thus giving up its kenitic energy to the target. Think the difference between a fully jacketed non-hollow-point projectile vs a hollow point round. BTW, a coil gun is a much more elegant (IMHO) solution than a rail gun. Rail guns are brute force solutions. They produce hideous lateral stress on the rails and the rails degrade quickly. A coil gun could conceivably deliver comparable muzzle velocities to a rail gun without the adverse effects of the massive currents on the rails. If annular grav-based attractors were used in place of coils then you could get some nice muzzle velocities. The most difficult engineering challenge would be the electronics to turn the attractor rings on/off in sequence. Of course with the grav-based power supplies available coil guns become imminently practical. You could also simply mount a grav emitter on a hunk of concrete (along with a complimentary on to keep the rock together with the emitter), sight along the rock and when the target is visible through the bore of the rock turn on the emitter ar several 10s of thousands of Gs. The rock would accelerate for as long as it was in flight and – presumably) would track any lateral motion of the target until impact. A 10lb rock moving at 1% of 1% of lightspeed would have the kinetic energy of FIVE METRIC TONNES of TNT! Since the projectile would not have time to notice any atmospheric heating effects over reasonable distances you can ignore them. Of course such weapons WOULD be limited to direct fire/line-of-sight attacks. Even at .01% of 1% of lightspeed a 10lb projectile would have the energy equivalent of 5kg of TNT. The energy is directly proportional to mass and square-law proportional to velocity. Even a 2lb projectile moving at a reasonable %age of lightspeed packs a wallop. The enemy could in defilade behind a berm and a small man-portable weapon would be knocking holes in the berm!
Regarding grav guns: You wrote, “whatever you fire at is coming back at you,, the bigger the gun, the bigger the chunk coming back at you.!” Let me explain the logical error in that statement (no offense intended). I suspect you are postulating a super-strong grav beam continuously applied to the target. In such an instance, one would expect chunks – possibly large chunks – of the target being accelerated towards the emitter along the long axis of the beam. But what I envision is a PULSED beam. The destructiveness of the beam lies in both the pulsing AND in the immensely steep gravity gradient across the beam. For this application an annular beam would be more effective as it would provide two gradients. Inertia is a stone cold bitch. Masses require time to accelerate. The grav gun’s purpose is not so much to pull a portion of the target towards itself as to apply a rapidly changing, extremely steep gravity gradient to a cylindrical cross section of the target in an effort to induce massive structural failure of everything in the beam’s path. For this think something like the battle in ST: Wrath of Kahn where the Reliant’s phaser stitches a seam down the engineering section of the Enterprise. Except that the disruption, rather than being confined mostly to the surface of the target’s hull, would be in a cylinder the width of the target. For this application sweeping the target with the beam would be more destructive than holding it in place. But in any case anything in the beam would essentially be reduced to a fine dust. Google “black hole” and “spagettification” for the effect I’m talking about. As something approaches the event horizon of a black hole it is torn apart into its component atoms NOT by the gravity itself but by the gravity gradient which would be on the order of thousands of Gs across the length of whatever was falling into the black hole. Again, look up black hole and spegettification (hopefully I’m spelling it right)
Away from compy.. So short answer, was talking PC,s grav emitter . Which pulls towards..
And no was not talking about rail gun.. Was talking grav gun….
Bill, because there is a limit as to how rapidly you can transit multiple ships through a wormhole, Dreadnoughts were built to
send as much firepower, armor, and defense through a wormhole as possible. There is also a 2-dimensional size limit. A ship
can only be so large before the only way to increase it’s volume is to make it longer. This is why Imperial ships are lozenge-shaped.
(Not to mention less surface area, fewer shot traps, and more efficient interior layout.) But once someone came up with the idea
of mounting Toby fighters on the exterior of a Frigate, someone else realized that they could just get rid of the carrier ship entirely
and mount smaller warships (Crew of 10-20) to a blow away framework so that a squad or more could transit the wormhole as one,
then leave the frame to fight as a group.
The imperial Navy will have larger ships for support and supply, but the imperial philosophy will be small, fast, heavily-armed
and hard to detect warships making slashing attacks against an enemy.
So the Frigate will be the largest combat ship that the Empire will build, and they will most likely be used for defense or delivering
small Marine units to a planet’s surface.
I already have the Frigates and the Toby’s, if you could build something in-between, say about the size of the Catia’s Pride, that
would be great.
When the Navy captured the Lamian fleet, there was talk of naming the captured Dreadnought the “Obvious Overcompensation”.
They’re still wondering what to do with the thing.
With it’s capture, they also got their hands on the near-latest Alien technology, as the Core Worlds military research has been
pretty stagnant due to the lack of opposition, and “good enough” is the cheapest in the short run.
But we’ve been fighting for all of our history, so seeking improved ways to kill is kind of a habit with us. Or a hobby.
Probably sell the Dreadnought to one of their customers for system defense.
Navy planners are aware of several things:
1) The treaty may not hold forever, in the face of eroding economic monopoly.
2) There are probably other, so far unknown, races out there that aren’t bound by the treaty.
3) The best way to preserve peace is to let everyone else know that you are prepared for war.
The Gravity Drive and ability to mine the Asteroid Belt have boosted the Empire, and interstellar trade will do more.
You would be surprised at what’s happened to the Imperial birthrate, Cats and Terrans, as people become more confident
of the future, and realize that there will be room to expand.
hummm.. hive (frame) ship.. as a carrier base,. as in modern navy, the carrier has the supplies (the fuel, ammo, repair, food…),. make the ships interchangeable, and one (when docked) is the bridge..
undocked is just a frame… but has a gravity well generator,. if another ship comes to close (IE: trying to steal tech) activates a 10 grav area of denial and pins everyone… till the ship can be dealt with..
Petercat,
Several ideas you just expressed made me think of Asimov’s original “Foundation” trilogy.
Core worlds = Empire. Old, crumbling around the edges, nothing new for research/technology.
Catian/Terrian Imperium = Foundation. Doing more with less. New technology. “Conquest” by trade treaty (as opposed to military force).
If you haven’t read it lately/at all, take time. It will be time well spent.
(LOVE Hari Selden and the concept of psychohistory)
Cat man,
You’re the boss. An in-between sized craft is no problem. Just give me the numbers -2D max/avg – and at least a picture or an over all description of your vision of a “lozenge” and I’ll get on it. I did the spaceship I put on my DA page partly to see if I could pull off the shape. And because I thought it would look cool. I can do a lozenge shaped hull with thrusters literally out the ass end. My personal esthetic would make it somewhat flattened but I can do whatever shape you want now. What I need is your thoughts on size. You mentioned max size for wormhole transit so I need those figures to work from. I model on a 1 grid unit = 1 foot scale then reorient and scale up to transmit to you. Not sure why but when I scale a 6unit cube up 30.303 times I get something close to the same size as the figures you sent me. I just need to know the size (feet or meters) of the hull you want me to construct and some ideas about features – gun emplacements, docking bays/doors, bridge windows etc. – on the craft itself. We can talk about interior sets but I suspect you may already have usable models of those. I’ll keep looking at email for private channel communiques.
One question. Please confirm you got all the models I sent you of the Locust II (and cargo module), EITS (Eye In The Sky) surveillance module and the multi-purpose cargo/pax module. If you didn’t then I need to send them again.
hehe,, now the Terrans need to figure out the dragons cloaking,, and be really feared..
or develop a cloak of their own,, using gravity to bend light around them..
cuz the dragon cloak could be detected..
oh oh ,,, idea… gravity mine, sensor decoys.. just like we have decoys the simulate ships to fool sensors.. now add a gravity mine… o.0
great idea,, bad follow through.. modern decoys keep the item (beam, missile, projectile,.) there.. whereas you want to deflect the item into a new path ,, to hit or lock on to something else..
and yes decoys can be spoofed, but it still improves your survival rate..
IF you are the only target,. Yes.!
im talking bout multiple targets.. like in a busy shipping lane,, or a un docking hive ship,, or just a good old dog-fight…
oh and, if you are far enough away, you ‘could’ maneuver into the new deflected path…
Not to imitate a broken record, but if you would allow negative gravity then you could easily use it as shielding for a craft. Would also make a nice accelerator for projectiles.
yes. poor girl.
but im a firm believer of removing warning labels, an posting a generic “not following manufactures instructions voids warranty.”
if they want to eat tide pods,, let them.! they want to work on a live outlet, standing on a metal ladder in a pool. let them.!
or my new favorite,, on new cars,, “Don’t drink the contents of battery.” …
and yes,, i follow the “Darwin awards.”
There used to be a talk radio host named Neil Boortz. One of this recurring lines was “Repeal all the laws that protect stupid people”. I still think that is something that needs to be done.
Side note, he co-authored the book on the Fair Tax.
He played on my local conservative talk show station (best traffic and weather reports), but he wasn’t a conservative, he was a libertarian (small l) and knew the difference. I loved listening to him.
Sorry, Catman, but this is a whole ‘nother level of STUPID! HAS to rank up there with the dizzy dame who used GORILLA GLUE as hair gel. It kept her hair in place all right!! Ditz figured she could just wash the stuff out with shampoo afterwards. I do not mean to be disrespectful to any readers of the distaff side but those two women DESERVE just about any non-profanity bywords to designate humans of the double “X” chromosome persuasion. If you think I’m kidding about the person who put gorilla glue in their hair do a search for “gorilla glue girl”.
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-092/ panel 6.!
i was using the grav cannon as designed by PC.. and reversed em (2 emitters,. center the round between them so as not to hit the cannon on the way out…)
now that that i reread,,, you don’t need big battle ship guns.!! one small “cannon” fires thousands of gravities , with very high speed ejecta… so..
if you were to reverse 12 of em paired up to 6 “barrels” you now have a hypervelocity(HV) sea wiz…. and at HV any thing but solid is useless.. it vaporizes,, the target area vaporizes..
now think ,, less than a second burst fires 60 rounds and covers a 20 foot radius at range.. that’s 60 one inch holes completely through that plate.. in a 20 foot section..
AND (but wait there’s more).. if you are worried about shields,, switch to sniper mode (aircraft gatling guns are made to spread,, to improve hit count at range.!!) , you now have all the HV rounds hitting the same spot
(HV hyper / laser cutter.!!)
I’m going to claim a success: I called that the plan was for Gorilla to beat King T’Chaka in hand-to-hand combat and thereby depose him. But boy, was I wrong about Gorilla immediately abdicating!
Did they really plan to have a Legionnaire become the King of Waukanda… without clearing it with Teresa first?
But with Gorilla as King, maybe Waukanda is going to join the Empire! I hadn’t even thought of that possibility! I can’t see it going perfectly and smoothly but goodness knows the people would be better off in the long run.
Petercat: I would like to see some dialog actually documenting what just happened. Pretty please?
Heh-heh. Friday.
I will say this without giving anything away:
With Teresa off-planet, Madea approved of the plan. The Emperor refused
to get involved, as the Legion is for all practical purposes, Teresa’s.
Mark is a friend of Robert’s, he attended their wedding:
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-757/ panel 2.
There is also the fact that Gorilla hadn’t done any actual crimes. He simply followed his friend into the Legion
I think we all guessed the “monkey” would be Gorilla, but I was apparently wrong in assuming the “dog” was “Teresa’s dog” Squirrel. And a Vixen is as close to a dog as a gorilla is to a monkey.
So, so far we have Humans, Dragons, Amphibians, Gorn, Gorillaphants?, Mogwai?, Ratfolk, and Dogishuans, of which only the first two and the last one are real names. (And I look forward to replacing some of those with their real names. And I could be wrong about the last speaker NOT being a Dogishuan, some dog breeds have features nearly that ratlike.) And we haven’t touched the “Core Worlds”. And two offshoot/created species, Catians and Dragonflies. And we don’t know if the Amphibians are one species or two. Clearly there are more than the eight I thought had been quoted early on. Of course, there is room for the original statement that “all” sapient species originated on the same world to be incomplete. Could still be true, could be that the original members of this “Council of Worlds” all originated there but others have been encountered since. However you look at it, though, this is a sudden wealth of new information to speculate about. I half hope a few bits are explained soon, but not everything, not for a long time. (And if any of you can come up with better temporary names until they are revealed in canon, feel free. I really don’t like Gorillaphant or Mogwai.)
i wood say gorillaphants = troll ,, and mogwai = minorey or miners,,,.
and,, by your definition they are all real names… all of them have a back story/ history page somewhere.. tho Gorillaphants is spelled GorillaphEnt…
humans,, duh..
dragon,, same,, could use D&D..
amphibians, Abe Sapien , hell boy.
gorn, star trek ..
Gorillaghents. furry South Carolina.
mogwai , devil, gremlins
ratfolk D&D5e Ysoki
Dogishuans , Cat Planet Cuties..
By “real” I meant “established in canon”. I don’t believe PC has given us a race name for the amphibians, and this is the only appearance so far of the four new ones. I was just tagging them with temporary labels so we could talk about them before we knew more. I really doubt PC will use Gorn for the lizardfolk or BlackLagoonies for the amphibians.
If the Empire is going to be moving in on older species’ traiding territory, it’s a sure thing somebody is gonna be unpleased. Accordingly, I figure the Empire is going to need warships to defend itself. Been playing with an idea for a genuine dreadnaught. First rendering is available on my DA page here: https://www.deviantart.com/bmullins3/gallery Planning on arming it with steerable gun turrets similar to wet Navy ships today plus heavy guns mounted along the long axis of the craft. I would like to have the gang here’s thoughts – ESPECIALLY those of our story teller.
For armament, I’m thinking grav guns with 10 meter diameter emitters pulsing 1 mega-G at 10,000 pulses/sec. Vessel’s main guns will be 20 meters diameter at 20 M-G at 10Khz and mounted along the spaceframe’s long axis. They have to be mounted solidly to the spaceframe to keep them from ripping loose when activated. Way I figure it with the incredibly steep gravity gradient the ship’s guns would produce even the strongest materials would be pounded to dust and ripped apart pretty quickly. Also, There would not be much that could shield from such guns. Organics would cease to exist almost instantaneously in such fields.
i was going back to the gravitic mines idea,, but mount as a missile warhead…
..the problem as described.. ‘with the big guns.’ is it pulls.. so whatever you fire at is coming back at you,, the bigger the gun, the bigger the chunk coming back at you.!
how about a reverse rail gun.. (along the axis of the ship..) instead of magnets along the rails,,, a couple of heavy grav’s unit at the bow, that pulls the round to god rod speeds (maybe relativistic of c) ..?
to make a “conventional gun” you would have to make 2 or 3 small grav units at the muzzle ( to center the round between the units..) and another unit to damp out the impulse of the (probably hypersonic) round leaving…
just a couple of ‘stupid ideas..’
Now THAT is a great idea!
Rob,
Kinetic kill weapons would work okay. I see them using annular grav emitters similar to the could in a coil gun using high speed electronics to stage the emitters/attactractors to incrementally accelerate the projectile. For that sort of weapon the projectiles could be very cheap – say cast concrete. The reason tungsten is envisioned for your “god rods” is primarily for its density. The more dense a material is the less energy it sheds due to atmospheric friction. For projectiles in a space battle tungsten might be overkill since it would be more likely to produce a throug-and-through. Something dense but frangible like concrete would be more likely to deform or crush thus giving up its kenitic energy to the target. Think the difference between a fully jacketed non-hollow-point projectile vs a hollow point round. BTW, a coil gun is a much more elegant (IMHO) solution than a rail gun. Rail guns are brute force solutions. They produce hideous lateral stress on the rails and the rails degrade quickly. A coil gun could conceivably deliver comparable muzzle velocities to a rail gun without the adverse effects of the massive currents on the rails. If annular grav-based attractors were used in place of coils then you could get some nice muzzle velocities. The most difficult engineering challenge would be the electronics to turn the attractor rings on/off in sequence. Of course with the grav-based power supplies available coil guns become imminently practical. You could also simply mount a grav emitter on a hunk of concrete (along with a complimentary on to keep the rock together with the emitter), sight along the rock and when the target is visible through the bore of the rock turn on the emitter ar several 10s of thousands of Gs. The rock would accelerate for as long as it was in flight and – presumably) would track any lateral motion of the target until impact. A 10lb rock moving at 1% of 1% of lightspeed would have the kinetic energy of FIVE METRIC TONNES of TNT! Since the projectile would not have time to notice any atmospheric heating effects over reasonable distances you can ignore them. Of course such weapons WOULD be limited to direct fire/line-of-sight attacks. Even at .01% of 1% of lightspeed a 10lb projectile would have the energy equivalent of 5kg of TNT. The energy is directly proportional to mass and square-law proportional to velocity. Even a 2lb projectile moving at a reasonable %age of lightspeed packs a wallop. The enemy could in defilade behind a berm and a small man-portable weapon would be knocking holes in the berm!
Regarding grav guns: You wrote, “whatever you fire at is coming back at you,, the bigger the gun, the bigger the chunk coming back at you.!” Let me explain the logical error in that statement (no offense intended). I suspect you are postulating a super-strong grav beam continuously applied to the target. In such an instance, one would expect chunks – possibly large chunks – of the target being accelerated towards the emitter along the long axis of the beam. But what I envision is a PULSED beam. The destructiveness of the beam lies in both the pulsing AND in the immensely steep gravity gradient across the beam. For this application an annular beam would be more effective as it would provide two gradients. Inertia is a stone cold bitch. Masses require time to accelerate. The grav gun’s purpose is not so much to pull a portion of the target towards itself as to apply a rapidly changing, extremely steep gravity gradient to a cylindrical cross section of the target in an effort to induce massive structural failure of everything in the beam’s path. For this think something like the battle in ST: Wrath of Kahn where the Reliant’s phaser stitches a seam down the engineering section of the Enterprise. Except that the disruption, rather than being confined mostly to the surface of the target’s hull, would be in a cylinder the width of the target. For this application sweeping the target with the beam would be more destructive than holding it in place. But in any case anything in the beam would essentially be reduced to a fine dust. Google “black hole” and “spagettification” for the effect I’m talking about. As something approaches the event horizon of a black hole it is torn apart into its component atoms NOT by the gravity itself but by the gravity gradient which would be on the order of thousands of Gs across the length of whatever was falling into the black hole. Again, look up black hole and spegettification (hopefully I’m spelling it right)
Away from compy.. So short answer, was talking PC,s grav emitter . Which pulls towards..
And no was not talking about rail gun.. Was talking grav gun….
Bill, because there is a limit as to how rapidly you can transit multiple ships through a wormhole, Dreadnoughts were built to
send as much firepower, armor, and defense through a wormhole as possible. There is also a 2-dimensional size limit. A ship
can only be so large before the only way to increase it’s volume is to make it longer. This is why Imperial ships are lozenge-shaped.
(Not to mention less surface area, fewer shot traps, and more efficient interior layout.) But once someone came up with the idea
of mounting Toby fighters on the exterior of a Frigate, someone else realized that they could just get rid of the carrier ship entirely
and mount smaller warships (Crew of 10-20) to a blow away framework so that a squad or more could transit the wormhole as one,
then leave the frame to fight as a group.
The imperial Navy will have larger ships for support and supply, but the imperial philosophy will be small, fast, heavily-armed
and hard to detect warships making slashing attacks against an enemy.
So the Frigate will be the largest combat ship that the Empire will build, and they will most likely be used for defense or delivering
small Marine units to a planet’s surface.
I already have the Frigates and the Toby’s, if you could build something in-between, say about the size of the Catia’s Pride, that
would be great.
When the Navy captured the Lamian fleet, there was talk of naming the captured Dreadnought the “Obvious Overcompensation”.
They’re still wondering what to do with the thing.
With it’s capture, they also got their hands on the near-latest Alien technology, as the Core Worlds military research has been
pretty stagnant due to the lack of opposition, and “good enough” is the cheapest in the short run.
But we’ve been fighting for all of our history, so seeking improved ways to kill is kind of a habit with us. Or a hobby.
Probably sell the Dreadnought to one of their customers for system defense.
Navy planners are aware of several things:
1) The treaty may not hold forever, in the face of eroding economic monopoly.
2) There are probably other, so far unknown, races out there that aren’t bound by the treaty.
3) The best way to preserve peace is to let everyone else know that you are prepared for war.
The Gravity Drive and ability to mine the Asteroid Belt have boosted the Empire, and interstellar trade will do more.
You would be surprised at what’s happened to the Imperial birthrate, Cats and Terrans, as people become more confident
of the future, and realize that there will be room to expand.
hummm.. hive (frame) ship.. as a carrier base,. as in modern navy, the carrier has the supplies (the fuel, ammo, repair, food…),. make the ships interchangeable, and one (when docked) is the bridge..
undocked is just a frame… but has a gravity well generator,. if another ship comes to close (IE: trying to steal tech) activates a 10 grav area of denial and pins everyone… till the ship can be dealt with..
Petercat,
Several ideas you just expressed made me think of Asimov’s original “Foundation” trilogy.
Core worlds = Empire. Old, crumbling around the edges, nothing new for research/technology.
Catian/Terrian Imperium = Foundation. Doing more with less. New technology. “Conquest” by trade treaty (as opposed to military force).
If you haven’t read it lately/at all, take time. It will be time well spent.
(LOVE Hari Selden and the concept of psychohistory)
Cat man,
You’re the boss. An in-between sized craft is no problem. Just give me the numbers -2D max/avg – and at least a picture or an over all description of your vision of a “lozenge” and I’ll get on it. I did the spaceship I put on my DA page partly to see if I could pull off the shape. And because I thought it would look cool. I can do a lozenge shaped hull with thrusters literally out the ass end. My personal esthetic would make it somewhat flattened but I can do whatever shape you want now. What I need is your thoughts on size. You mentioned max size for wormhole transit so I need those figures to work from. I model on a 1 grid unit = 1 foot scale then reorient and scale up to transmit to you. Not sure why but when I scale a 6unit cube up 30.303 times I get something close to the same size as the figures you sent me. I just need to know the size (feet or meters) of the hull you want me to construct and some ideas about features – gun emplacements, docking bays/doors, bridge windows etc. – on the craft itself. We can talk about interior sets but I suspect you may already have usable models of those. I’ll keep looking at email for private channel communiques.
One question. Please confirm you got all the models I sent you of the Locust II (and cargo module), EITS (Eye In The Sky) surveillance module and the multi-purpose cargo/pax module. If you didn’t then I need to send them again.
hehe,, now the Terrans need to figure out the dragons cloaking,, and be really feared..
or develop a cloak of their own,, using gravity to bend light around them..
cuz the dragon cloak could be detected..
oh oh ,,, idea… gravity mine, sensor decoys.. just like we have decoys the simulate ships to fool sensors.. now add a gravity mine… o.0
How about gravity decoys at a distance? To bend energy beams, missiles and projectiles away from their ship?
great idea,, bad follow through.. modern decoys keep the item (beam, missile, projectile,.) there.. whereas you want to deflect the item into a new path ,, to hit or lock on to something else..
and yes decoys can be spoofed, but it still improves your survival rate..
Properly set up, they would deflect the weapon onto a path between the ship and the decoy, generating a miss.
IF you are the only target,. Yes.!
im talking bout multiple targets.. like in a busy shipping lane,, or a un docking hive ship,, or just a good old dog-fight…
oh and, if you are far enough away, you ‘could’ maneuver into the new deflected path…
Not to imitate a broken record, but if you would allow negative gravity then you could easily use it as shielding for a craft. Would also make a nice accelerator for projectiles.
So stupid it’s hilarious! Poor girl.
https://nypost.com/video/tiktoker-tests-dogs-shock-collar-on-herself/
Idiot.
yes. poor girl.
but im a firm believer of removing warning labels, an posting a generic “not following manufactures instructions voids warranty.”
if they want to eat tide pods,, let them.! they want to work on a live outlet, standing on a metal ladder in a pool. let them.!
or my new favorite,, on new cars,, “Don’t drink the contents of battery.” …
and yes,, i follow the “Darwin awards.”
Well, that wasn’t very smart…
There used to be a talk radio host named Neil Boortz. One of this recurring lines was “Repeal all the laws that protect stupid people”. I still think that is something that needs to be done.
Side note, he co-authored the book on the Fair Tax.
His show repeated at night, so I used to listen to him while driving.
He played on my local conservative talk show station (best traffic and weather reports), but he wasn’t a conservative, he was a libertarian (small l) and knew the difference. I loved listening to him.
I giggled every time her referred to Sean Hannity as “baby Jesus”
It is impossible to make something “idiot proof” because the universe is infinitely creative at producing idiots.
Sorry, Catman, but this is a whole ‘nother level of STUPID! HAS to rank up there with the dizzy dame who used GORILLA GLUE as hair gel. It kept her hair in place all right!! Ditz figured she could just wash the stuff out with shampoo afterwards. I do not mean to be disrespectful to any readers of the distaff side but those two women DESERVE just about any non-profanity bywords to designate humans of the double “X” chromosome persuasion. If you think I’m kidding about the person who put gorilla glue in their hair do a search for “gorilla glue girl”.
She’s hawking a line of “hair growth enhancement oil” now.
In the words of Forrest Gump “Stupid is as stupid does”
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-092/ panel 6.!
i was using the grav cannon as designed by PC.. and reversed em (2 emitters,. center the round between them so as not to hit the cannon on the way out…)
now that that i reread,,, you don’t need big battle ship guns.!! one small “cannon” fires thousands of gravities , with very high speed ejecta… so..
if you were to reverse 12 of em paired up to 6 “barrels” you now have a hypervelocity(HV) sea wiz…. and at HV any thing but solid is useless.. it vaporizes,, the target area vaporizes..
now think ,, less than a second burst fires 60 rounds and covers a 20 foot radius at range.. that’s 60 one inch holes completely through that plate.. in a 20 foot section..
AND (but wait there’s more).. if you are worried about shields,, switch to sniper mode (aircraft gatling guns are made to spread,, to improve hit count at range.!!) , you now have all the HV rounds hitting the same spot
(HV hyper / laser cutter.!!)