TGW-787
Chapter: 26 Alien Encounter
Characters: ambassador Palas, capt asita, Capt Chardis, capt hrrn'tn, chief gabriall, chief hrrkn'sss, colonel brand, dragonflys, skee'tr
Location: Catia's pride, rally point
The Gentle Wolf
A modern adventure webcomic
Mr Stanley, have you beard from the Catman? I remember him telling us about his neighbor’s passing and its effects on his internet connection. Do you know if he has secured new access to the web?
Separate issue since I am not sure I can ask the Catman directly. Do you thing PC would/could use a very basic, Locust-transportable troop transport module with the same form factor as a cargo module? For the real world think a 40′ ISO cargo container with seats along the sides like the jump seats on a C-130 or C-141 (I have never been inside a CH-47 or CH-53 so I have no direct experience in helos). Pax loading/unloading would be via a drop-down ramp in the rear of the module. Until I make the seats I cannot know how many troops it would accomodate but I would ecpect something on the order of 20 (4 Marine fire.teams – 2 squads?) assuming I can squeeze 10 asses in on a side. I have an existing cargo module I can modify for this based on a reverse engineered version of the cargo module that comes with the Locust. I’ve been rethinking my earlier work on the cargo module. I’m coming to the conclusion that the guy who did the cargo module way over engineered it. I’m not sure that in the real world it would need the external bracing/skeleton the guy put on it. A simplified design would yeild more room/space inside although width and length would be constrained by the dimensions of the Locust airframe.
What do you think? If you wish to take this discussion private channel, I am Puud’s Grandpa (puudsgpaw) at gmail (I trust you can construct a usable email.from that info. I purpose do not want a bot to be able to decode the data).
HELP!
I know we have a couple of former helo troops that come here. I want to build a troop carrying module for the Locust transporter. Going to go all out and start from scratch with all new models. Even going to model the seats from scratch. I can find plenty of photos to work from to get ideas for the seats. The length, width and heights of the module is entirely dictated by the Locust transporter. What I need – if I can get it – are good numbers for the cargo bay of , say a CH-47 (which I know can carry pax) the CH-53 (about which I know nothing) and the UH-60. I like the look of the Blackhawk seats and the seats in the Chinook look good, too. I need dimensions. If I cannot get dimensions on the seats themselves (which so far I have not been able to find) then the cargo bay of the Chinook or the seating area of the Blackhawk dimensions should let me get close.
Can you guys help me out?
this is what they are going to,, in all air craft.. https://martin-baker.com/products/troop-and-gunner/ . and it has dimensions.
UH-60 11 troops, 85in w x 151in L
Osprey 24 troops, 70in w x 290in L
CH-46 24 troops, 70in w x 290in L
CH-47 33 troops, 90in w x 300in L , 55 if added center row seats (packed like sardines)
CH-53 38 troops, 90in w x 300in L , 55 center row (extra 5,, marines were allowed to sit by door gunners , not in army..
except the UH-60 , height is 75in…
and,, checked with a “still enlisted.” military pulled all ” AH101 canvas / nylon seat. ” have to replace any an all damaged seats with the new crash worthy seats.. CANNOT sell to DRMO.!
they even pulled the specs, so you can’t build locally..
You do realize that the only “building” I am going to be doing is in a 3D modeller, right? those cargo bay measurements will allow me to get in the right balllpark. I also have a model dummy that I can pose to check over all fit. Thanks for the data.
hehe ,, you asked for a ‘thing’,, i found why you could not get the ‘thing’,. an explained why.. 🙂
Sorry. Didn’t realize I was asking for classified. guess I’ll have to use my posing dummy and build a seat around “his” ass with final reference to a standard figure petercat sent me last winter. Speaking of Petercat, have you heard from him?
That Cofeve raised the Captain’s crest, it seems.
Perked him up, so to speak.
That stuff is somewhat inconsistent in spelling…
Throughout the story it has been spelled covfefe, cofveve and now cofeve. Same drink? 😉
I know, I know – I’m a spelling nazi – been my whole life, guess that’s my CDO 😉
inconsistent spelling… but we will go with tomato , tomahto,. / pop , soda,. ..so.. one place calls it Covfefe, other place calls it Cofveve,, every where else calls it cofeve…
how about that.? 🙂
Nice, Rob. YOU still do apologetics well. (ref me saying last strip I USED to be better at it.) Likely over time simplest spelling will win out. Or the one used over the largest or richest part of Catia.
nothing on PC,, yet .. i usually dont hear from,, till bout 2 hours before post..
removing from publication, means if you make it yourself,, we are not liable.. that sed..
wen made locally ,, seats are based on 15,, 15 inches square seats, an backs, 15in off the floor,. then bolted to a 15 foot pole ( tho the 47 / 53 use 2 ten foot poles).. seat back is bolted to the pole an airframe.. seat is ‘hinged’ to the pole, to fold away for cargo loading.. pole is a 2in Aluminum 1/4in thick tubing..
15 inches. That’s a hard number that I can work with/from. I have the grid in the workspace set to 1 unit and scale everything such that 1 grid unit = 1 foot. 15 inches = 1.25 feet which is easy peasy to check. Planning on using 2″ diameter “tubing” for the frames if I fudge things a tad and put the frames 1.5′ (18″) on centers that would yeild a nice comfy 16″ width per seat. That sould be “close enough” to real not to matter. I do have a question about the entry door. As I have the shell constructed I have the rear panel as a single piece, planning on having it swing down to make a loading/unloading ramp. This thing is going to be multi-putpose. I’m planning on building jump seats for the sides and a removeable double row (back to back) of seats for the midline. The cargo pod is wide enough and tall enough to easily accomodate 4′ square cargo pallets down the middle between the seats. At the sacrifice of a bit of height, I raised the bottom of the module about 18″ off the ground to accomodate castering wheels for rolling the modules under a Locust as you would expect in the real world. Do you like the multi-purpose idea or would a dedicated troop transport module be a better choice? Also, for the door, is a simple drop-down ramp better or perhaps a pair of sidewise sliding door would be better? A simple drop ramp would provide full width access for faster/easier loading/unloading vs a pair of sliding doors offering slightly under 50% width. I spent time riding 141s and 130s but never had to load/unload one of the things. You guys have more expertise/experience than I do.
for your design,, 16 would be prefect.!
love the “muti-” design,, really hate the idea of assets sitting, cuz we can only use for … AND,, (wait theres more..) if one is damaged, can swap to a another,, an not wait on damaged parts from supply..
doors,, top an bottom , not sides.. reasoning, IF ramp is to long (for air drop) it is in the slip stream, an causes all kinds of flight issues,, an then causes drop issues.. that is why you see ALL cargo ramps that way….
normal doors on the ‘other’ pods is fine,, not used for air drop..
Remember, what we’re talking about here is basically an ISO cargo container. Fancy doors like on dedicated cargo aircraft is not an option. I hadn’t even thought about air drops. I’m just thinking about a cargo container with jump seats and removable center seats that can also carry standard pallets. Air drops would be problematic for dropping from a Locust anyhow. The constantly shifting CG would make maintaining pitch attitude a nightmare. I plan to publish some screen shots of the empty module Tuesday with the new installment. (Assuming there is one.) Damn! Like to know how PC is doing vis a vis internet connection these days.
In spite of limiting crew height, she’s slightly taller than the colonel, just enough. Happy coincidence or very good intelligence?
i would say happy coincidence,,. if you go back an look the Colonel is not tall,, i would say she is average height…
oh an heard from PC,, is Fine, just avoiding,. still has internet,, ‘so far ‘ ..
also.! heard we have new lurkers…new people who have not commented ,, yet .. So.
RULES : Opinions .. every one has them.! and can post them. IF you disagree, that is fine also.. Just don’t be mean, / belittling, / or rude..
and yes we have Females here.. don’t be stalker,ish.!
finally , if you have a issue (an can’t work it out) let Petercat (or me) know an we’ll try to clear it up.!