A misguided soul, a man programmed from birth the believe in idiocy.
A laundry list. But she’s thinking he’s strong enough to overcome
it all. Anyone could be saved, if they want to be, there is WAY too
many people that would rather blindly follow a small-minded leader,
than take control of their own lives. I seen that idea in the street
gangs in Gary, it’s really just an excuse to do bad things,
just blame it on the “boss”.
just guessing here… Mala is/was muslim…
Mala does mean beauty in Arabic.
an being raised ina muslim household
she would know what buttons to press,.
to really piss him off.!
I’m gonna guess she’s not of Muslim background. Arabic, perhaps.
But as one of Her Own, she’s from the orphanage. And to be at the
skill level she is, she’s been an orphan probably all her life, so,
may not have ANY particular religious background, but if she does,
it is most probably not Muslim.
That’s true, all Her Own were orphans, so even if
she’s from a Muslim family, she wasn’t involved
with the mind-games they play with the kids, her
upbringing was more intelligent.
Ha, you GO girl! Cissy is thinking it out with the guys
as back up, this idiot will be either running for the hills
or begging to NOT go to jail. Hmmm… “order” him to
report the the Legion recruitment office maybe?
Nicely done Mala, I had hoped she’d try to talk him down.
Maybe she can do a Quato and start chanting
“Open your miiiiiiiind… Open your miiiiiiiiind….”
(Total Recall, the good one, not the bad remake)
He’s already defeated, and he knows it and Mala can tell,
it’s his pride and beliefs that are stopping him.
She is working to bust through them and get him to see
how wrong he has been.
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
I suspect she’s well on her way, I have a feeling
this guy knows what he’s doing is wrong, but
he’s too proud to admit it to his enemy, but that
just got changed! Opposition and enemy are 2
different things!
Most of you write as if Islam is your enemy. The enemy is -ism.
Islamism, Fundamentalism, Nationalism. Nobody needs that.
It just causes problems and produces mass graves.
No I haven’t, I’m talking about the idiotic leaders and such that
mess with people’s minds until they are nothing but mindless
drones following orders. That can be applied to many cultures and
locations including PC’s universe. Extremist Muslims are currently
just the most aggressive and plentiful. Just about every religion
in the world has done this to their followers throughout history.
Not just religions either, governments use the same tricks,
just people don’t want to think for themselves anymore.
It’s just easier to agree and follow orders.
I agree to that. There are also people who really believe
they found the answer to something and make a movement
from it. But also some people believing nothing
creating a movement by astro turfing so it works to
the benefit of these people that might be a totally
different thing than the people in the fabricated
movement think.
Whenever i see people marching in step i have my
doubts.
I have an issue with his ‘osms’ in relation to islam. But really NOT interested in a protracted argument.
Used to talk to a person who lives in Sweden. He claimed there were no such things as ‘no go zones’ and that the bombing across the country were no big deal.
Now, at least some of those with the means, are FLEEING THE COUNTRY, the rapes, murders and bombing have increased several times over, and I can no longer contact him.
Most of that problem in sweden is gang wars between local
Hells Angels and mostly migrant Bandidos.
Sweden changed the sex offender laws that boosts up the
numbers to double of what is in USA.
They do have some islamist problems too but that is only part of it.
I think they allowed a kind of separate areas what eases ghetto forming.
Regarding murders – Sweden has a rate of 0.9 per 100000 people,
USA is at 5 per 100000 people. And then all the no go zones.
Why are people not fleeing from USA?
The -isms are comparable in my opinion. You cant get rid of them
by killing one or a few leaders. The islamists live in a bubble that
tells them they need to revive the ideal islam of the 6th century
and what in their heads belongs to it.
They have a strong online presence that tells people in europe and
other places that they are surrounded by pagans and hated altogether.
So they need to “fight back”. With some people they are
successful and the right wing nationalists are a multiplier for that
problem.
People are not fleeing the USA because there’s no need to. Violence is concentrated
in Liberal-run cities, which people are fleeing.
Instead of your constant refrain of how terrible the USA is (As if it’s one homogeneous
society) compared to every-other-nation-on-Earth, how about comparing countries within Europe?
We are a completely different society from the EU model, we don’t want to give up our
freedoms in exchange for the illusion of safety, we don’t want to pay massive taxes
to provide everything for everyone, we don’t want to be afraid of being arrested for
speaking the truth, no matter how badly it offends someone else, we don’t want to see our
daughters raped or stabbed to death while the Police turn a blind eye for fear of being called a bad name
while they imprison someone for speaking out against the rapist.
No, the USA is not perfect and it will never be perfect, but neither is the EU. We’re different societies with
different histories which shaped us differently. I lived in Europe for more than ten years, and have
no desire to return. The things in the EU that you accept I find unacceptable. The USA is superior to the UE, FOR ME. Whether or not a European finds the USA acceptable is of no real importance. Different
societies, different people, different desires.
The liberal run states also send money to republican run states
– in general, with some exceptions. No, USA is not worse than
all other countries on earth but regarding crime worse than the
other western industrialized countries. Not as bad as russia though.
Europe is less homogeneous than USA. Not only by languages,
also by culture. And people from Paris are culturally closer to
people from Berlin than to people from rural France.
I think in many regards we are more free than US citizens in
others less. There were studies by US universities some years
ago to compare US and German citizens by free to spend money
after taxes and necessary spendings. They came to the conclusion
that the poor 20% are better off in germany and the rich 10% are
better off in USA the people in the middle are quite the same.
We dont like hate speech because it is often followed by death some
time later. Raping is less frequent in germany than in USA. And your
Idea of police in germany is ridiculous.
There are many US citizens moving here because they like it more
than in USA. When they go back they have to learn again to
constantly turn the head to notice threats early i hear very often.
From germans who moved to USA i hear different things.
Some like a lot of things in USA and other things they miss.
Yes, we are different.
My idea of Police in Germany is ridiculous? I expressed NOTHING about the Police in Germany.
Don’t… put words into my mouth or thoughts into my words.
Now, if you actually want to know my thoughts of the Police in Germany, (from 1975-1985 when I was there)
I will be more than happy to share them with you.
But I have not expressed my thoughts of the German police before now.
I can tell you the defining difference between your society and ours simply by referring
to traffic laws. In Germany, you can do nothing without permission from the government.
You’re at an intersection and need to turn right? There’s no blue sign telling you that you
can? Tough, the government hasn’t given you permission.
In the USA, same scenario, no sign. Go ahead and turn, it’s okay. THAT’S the difference. In Germany, you can’t do anything without permission from
the government. In the USA, you can do whatever you want as long as it’s not forbidden.
You’re used to that, fine. It’s natural for you. It’s not natural for us.
And how did finances come into it? You’re all over the place here, looking for excuses to
criticize the USA, or Conservatives, or the southern states. I’m not going to bother addressing
them, because that’s not what this is about. Stick to the subject: Crime.
What do i need permissions from Government for? There are laws in
place, sure. If people dont like laws they can elect somebody else to
remove that laws. Put in petitions to the parliament is another way.
At an intersection you can turn right unless there is a sign that says
you can not turn right. Sometimes there is a sign that tells you
to the right is a one – way road and you can not go in – you need
to find another way. sometimes
there is a blue sign with a white arrow that tells you, you need to
turn or go straight only at an intersection.
i think in USA people have to pay fines for jaywalking, right?
That means you need a permission from government to cross a road?
At many intersections in rural areas or suburbs there is no sign at all.
Its up to you what you do. Except when there was somebody coming from
the right of you and you have an accident, then its your fault.
You are right. I have some things with the USA that i dont like just as
you have some with my country.
About crimes. When somebody accuses another person as a rapist
the police can do nothing without a witness or any evidence.
Except asking the accused some questions.
I doubt that is different in the USA. I remember the 60 or so cases
for voting fraud that did not succeed by lack of evidence. I think
some lawyers lost their licence for stealing the judges time over that.
If somebody continues accusing a person of a crime without evidence
of course that person can sue back for not continuing that accuses.
To be in the right does not mean you get justice at court when you
dont have anything to support your case.
Oh, did you mean turning right at an intersection with traffic light without
following the light for the straight crossing lanes? Just turn right?
We imported that from the socialist East Germany with the
reunification. One of the few things. People are still not used to it in
West germany. Makes more accidents.
Regarding traffic. It is like that in my place.
OK, this is an extreme case but not that far away.
Netherlands is a bit ahead with the bike traffic.
In other places of germany you dont find that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQSwQLDIK8
Interesting. I was stationed in Stuttgart at Echterdingen Army Airfield for five years. I didn’t find the German laws to be overly restrictive, mostly just different in some ways. Traffic law were comparable to those in the USA except that there was literally no speed limits on the autobahns. That made driving an experience different than in the US. I mean you’re tooling along at 90 mph getting ready to pass a slow poke doing 80. You check the rear view mirror and see absolutely no traffic bend you. So you change lanes to pass and before you even clear the other car, you have a hot rod Porche behind you flashing his lights and honking. As you clear the other car and move to the tight lane, the Porche zips by hitting 120mph or more.
I think the major difference I found was no weapons. I had to keep my S&W .357 in the arms rooms. Another was insurance. I hate the ‘no fault’ system in the US. In Germany if you get in an accident and it’s the other guys fault, it’s their insurance that has to pay and your rates don’t change. I had personal experience with that and didn’t have to spend a penny to get my car fully repaired. You also got to pick whatever repair service you wanted and not limited to what the insurance company wanted.
All that said I still prefer my life in America over living in Germany or anywhere else I’ve travelled in the world. Still… German women and Beerfests, what fun.
In August 2018, SVT reported that rape statistics in Sweden show that 58% of men convicted of rape and
attempted rape over the past five years were immigrants born outside of the European Union: Southern
Africans, Northern Africans, Arabs, Middle Easterns, and Afghans. Swedish Television’s
investigating journalists found that in cases where the victims didn’t know the attackers, the proportion
of foreign-born sex offenders was more than 80%. The number of rapes reported to the authorities
in Sweden significantly increased by 10% in 2017, according to latest preliminary figures
from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. The number of reported rape cases
was 73 per 100,000 citizens in 2017, up 24% in the past decade. Official numbers show that the
incidence of sexual offences is on the rise; the Government has declared that young
women are facing the greatest risks and that most of the cases go unreported.
All those regions countries you listed have at least one thing in common.
They are all dominated by the “Religion of peace”. They all also have
cultures which denigrate and degrade women while excusing any misbehavior
by men. Many of them still allow slavery. Peaceful people do not go
around committing sexual assault. Nor do they execute the victims of
such assault.
Keep in mind on average world wide, it has been
estimated that only 30-40% of rapes and pe do phi lia
are reported or caught, some cultures stone the
woman/children for the act rather than the man.
“They tempted a good man to sin”
riiiiiight….
And this is exactly why I didn’t want and don’t intend to get in
a conversation with him. He’s going to ignore Reality and vomit
up Leftist-government numbers and claims.
Just like any of the useful idiots we used to deal with at DA.
According to a report published by academic researchers in 2017, shooting incidents with fatal outcomes are
about 4 to 5 times as common in Sweden compared to neighbouring countries such as Germany and Norway
when taking population size into account. The city with the highest prevalence of shootings was Malmö. The
grave violence in the studied period also changed character, from criminal motorcycle gangs to city suburbs.
Sweden also stands out in having a low resolution rate (25%) for gun homicides compared to Germany and
Finland at 90%.
It’s not the Hells Angels anymore. Hasn’t been for years.
Still the numbers of homicides per capita in sweden is one fifth of that in USA.
And the number of rapes is higher only because sweden changed the laws.
No. The laws didn’t gradually change causing the number of rapes to gradually increase, the number of rapes increased
as the number of Islamic invaders increased. There is a correlation there.
Oh, great. Now I can never visit Europe again for fear of being arrested for saying that. Yeah, I’ll stay here
where I am free to speak my mind.
What saying? I hear that kind of thing all the time in TV by some
sort of people. And it is true to some extent.
In sweden they were talking about an agreement app for the
smartphone. Before intercourse both use the app to be sure
the sex is by consent… How crazy is that?
My apologies on two counts:
I changed my first word because it was wrong to speak to you that way.
I was also thinking of England, which has already expressed an intent to
extradite Americans for things said on line… In America.
The last time England tried to force Americans to obey their laws, a bunch
of us crossed the Delaware river at Christmas and told them “no” in a pretty
decisive way.
I feel I should clarify something, my impression of Germany, it’s people, and it’s police.
I spent almost eleven years there.
I loved my time there. My wife was working as an ER nurse, our daughter went to
German schools, and I spent a lot of time in that same hospital, as during peacetime
the Army maintains a surplus of medics. Not much for us to do, really, but treat
soldiers who did stupid things.
So I met a lot of Germans, and liked them very much. I liked many things about
your society and customs, and disliked a few. But as a stranger in a strange land,
I did my best to learn and fit in.
Your Police, at the time (I don’t know if it’s changed) were reputed to be the best in
the world, and from what I saw, they were. I liked and respected them.
I knew many, because Maria, my wife, taught them combat martial arts in our back
yard.
Overall, I loved Germany. One of the things that caused us problems was that Maria
was an Aztec Mexican. She had a… large… nose, a monobrow, a slight mustache, dark
skin and sleek black hair, so most Germans assumed that she was Turkish, which caused
us some problems. In fact, that’s one reason she was an ER nurse. People in pain have
other things to worry about, and there were several Muslim doctors working there as well.
I liked and respect them as well.
My views on different nations and cultures have been mostly shaped by my own personal
experiences, by the people I’ve met.
No! The real enemy is EXTREMISM! Nothing wrong with fundamentalist
Christians. Neither patriotism nor nationalism are bad. I agree with Sir
Walter Scott who wrote:
“Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!”
I have a problem with fundamentalists be it christians or
muslim. It very often leads to totalitarian structures where
some people want to dictate other people what to do, what
clothes to wear what books to read and so on.
There are many fundamentalist Salafist muslim – totally peaceful –
but all the islamists were once Salafists.
I see some of that in some fundamentalist christians.
I hear some of them want a christian america, a
kind of theocracy.
I have no problem with patriotism, i am one because i
love my country.
Nationalism on the other hand wants you to believe that
your country and your people are better than all the others.
that was the main thing of the nazis in germany. It goes hand in hand
with racism. If somebody told you they were socialists,
because that is in their name – they were not. They were
as socialist as the democratic republic of north korea is
democratic. The nazis hated bolshevism and they did not
like the unhinged Manchester kapitalismn either. They did like
entrepeneur personalities. That was their thing – leaders and
a top down governing, a totalitarian control of everything.
Entrepeneurs were liked as long as they bowed their head to
the big leader in Berlin. Similar to the mafia Russia of today,
not exactly the same though.
My point exactly Bill, it’s not modern religion,
it’s the men that want to “return to the old
ways” that are the problem. Just because
something is old, doesn’t make it right. The
old ways were changed for a reason, and
change for the better is right.
Sweden has a home made problem. It let people migrate in and
let them alone. So many had no choice but move into the cheap
suburbs and form ghettos there. Separate from the rest of
society. Now they have a gang problem.
Still the overall criminality and murder rate is smaller than in
USA.
France has some banlieus – ghettos of mainly north africans from
their former colonies. Same problem. UK has a problem with
fundamentalist muslim Pakistanis.
Belgium similar to France. Netherlands has a problem with drug mafia
from the Rotterdam port and a problem with knife culture with the
teenagers – in general not only a certain group of teenagers.
Germany has some bad spots in some bigger cities so i heard.
I was lately to a show in a 300000 people city one hour away and was
asked for some cash not far from the railway station. A woman in her
40s with long blonde hair and obviously not looking healthy.
Probably drug addict.
Germany is bureaucratic as always. Refugees after the Geneve convention
can start working but need to get their profession acknowledged what
can be quite difficult. All need a language course.
Some need to have a certain level of german
language especially in the medical sector. People asking for Asylum
are not allowed to work for at least 6 months or until their claim is decided
about by a court. With so many people now it takes longer.
There are language courses and other things.
Companies have a huge demand for apprentices.Some things should
work better but even though there is so many people who came in the
last years comparison to other countries show that we do quite a good
job in sorting the people in to normal life. Most want to live from their
work. And the people from Syria etc from 2015 and 2016 are paying now
more money into the social system than they take out of it.
– There is a group of people who are more likely to become
criminals though. That are young men from West and North Africa who
got told it will be easy to become rich in germany but often fail to find
a place because lack of school education and probably lack of
monitoring by older relatives and other issues.
One of the things in germany that are a pain in the ass is the
paperwork. It becomes too much. But some is necessary.
Decades ago we got too much Nitrate in ground water in some
areas. Especially with too much pig stys. There were some soft
laws put in place that changed nothing. The farmers had a big
lobby with the conservative government. Some ten years ago
the EU sued germany for the nitrate readings and the laws were
made tough. Farmers had to report anything about buying things,
selling things, what
they did with the liquid manure and all that. Part of the farmers
stopped the pig business, the Nitrate went down, the pig prices
went up. The farmers are still complaining, but dont leave a
word about the nitrate.
Similar with fishing. National laws were useless. The EU made programs
to improve the overfished areas. Made the fishers use nets with bigger
holes so they did not catch the young ones anymore and limited the
amount that was allowed to fish. Now from some kind of fish they
catch more than any fisher can remember. Other kinds of fish are
not as good yet. But in general the managing of the limited source
works well. The fishers alone were going to do genocides on the fish.
My son told me about this game developer in Germany that was
“swatted”, his entire computer hardware/software seized, and
has been fighting to get his drives and 3D files returned
undamaged. Even thought the guy that made the false call ran
to Tia-land, and the total lack of evidence, it’s been a year and
he STILL has to stand trial even though they have hard evidence
that says otherwise. Poor guy has been on hold for over a year.
This guy was accused of running a hacker scam from his home.
Swatting caused the death of a YouTuber ON CAMERA in the USA,
if this had happened here they would be facing a minimum of 10+
years. The dev would have gotten his equipment/files back months
ago. As it is he may never recover his losses, or the respect of
his followers.
That is a sad story.
they do investigate scammers and also possible IS guys.
It sounds more like they were after some drugs or child pornographie.
The police is not holding back there.
I remember a SEK (Swat) team was send to arrest a Hells Angel member.
3 am. He heard it in his bedroom above his bakery, grabbed his
gun and shouted downstairs “who is at the door?” No answer.
More rummaging and so he shot. He killed one of the shot team by
hitting him in the neck above the safety vest. Then they said “police”,
so he dropped the gun and got arrested. In first instance he was
found guilty of murder second degree. In second instance he was
set free for self defense. He was able to show evidence of threats
to his life by some people.
Police kills between 2 and 20 people per year in germany. That would
be max 80 in USA. Swat raids are rare and need an ok by a judge.
I looked for news about swat raids in this year and last year and
did not find it. Some swat team raids of wrong appartments or houses.
Some “sovereign citizens” who did not pay taxes or fees and shot at
officials. So they came back with a swat team.
One was disguised in military outfit with a couple of weapons on the street.
Somebody called police. They found him and raided the appartment – it was
a gamer in costume with fake weapons on the way to gamesCon in Cologne.
Some people arrested or put in psychiatric ward for threatening
people with weapons or being obviously insane.
Some raids in drug and child pornography rings where they usually
take the computer equipment and other information.
Some swatting as you said it.
Nothing about a game developer.
Does not mean that it did not happen, just that i was not able to
find it.
The german police is doing quite well but there are some black sheep
too. A few days ago there was news about a taxi driver on the spanish
island of Mallorca who got manhandled by some passengers. Went to
hospital with broken bones. The bad guys said they were german police
and even tried to bribe the taxi driver and the spanish police. Can be
true – not yet confirmed. Really strange story.
Exactly – she doesn’t consider you her enemy.
So, what are you?
A misguided soul, a man programmed from birth the believe in idiocy.
A laundry list. But she’s thinking he’s strong enough to overcome
it all. Anyone could be saved, if they want to be, there is WAY too
many people that would rather blindly follow a small-minded leader,
than take control of their own lives. I seen that idea in the street
gangs in Gary, it’s really just an excuse to do bad things,
just blame it on the “boss”.
hah,, Jochi called it…
just guessing here… Mala is/was muslim…
Mala does mean beauty in Arabic.
an being raised ina muslim household
she would know what buttons to press,.
to really piss him off.!
Or to get him to just stop and THINK for a change.
Slavery of the mind is still a slave.
I’m gonna guess she’s not of Muslim background. Arabic, perhaps.
But as one of Her Own, she’s from the orphanage. And to be at the
skill level she is, she’s been an orphan probably all her life, so,
may not have ANY particular religious background, but if she does,
it is most probably not Muslim.
That’s true, all Her Own were orphans, so even if
she’s from a Muslim family, she wasn’t involved
with the mind-games they play with the kids, her
upbringing was more intelligent.
Ha, you GO girl! Cissy is thinking it out with the guys
as back up, this idiot will be either running for the hills
or begging to NOT go to jail. Hmmm… “order” him to
report the the Legion recruitment office maybe?
Nicely done Mala, I had hoped she’d try to talk him down.
Maybe she can do a Quato and start chanting
“Open your miiiiiiiind… Open your miiiiiiiiind….”
(Total Recall, the good one, not the bad remake)
Yes but the mutant would look really odd,
peeking out from under her breasts.
Heh, I agree, but acting like one wouldn’t
require that “extra” hiding under her top.
“…acting like one WOULDN’T require…”
sorry, mind not doing the think thing today.
YES! GO THE GOKU ROUTE!
Defeat him, and then get him to join the team!
He’s already defeated, and he knows it and Mala can tell,
it’s his pride and beliefs that are stopping him.
She is working to bust through them and get him to see
how wrong he has been.
If Mala doesn’t want to kill him with a knife,
she’ll try to convert him with kindness.
I suspect she’s well on her way, I have a feeling
this guy knows what he’s doing is wrong, but
he’s too proud to admit it to his enemy, but that
just got changed! Opposition and enemy are 2
different things!
Most of you write as if Islam is your enemy. The enemy is -ism.
Islamism, Fundamentalism, Nationalism. Nobody needs that.
It just causes problems and produces mass graves.
No I haven’t, I’m talking about the idiotic leaders and such that
mess with people’s minds until they are nothing but mindless
drones following orders. That can be applied to many cultures and
locations including PC’s universe. Extremist Muslims are currently
just the most aggressive and plentiful. Just about every religion
in the world has done this to their followers throughout history.
Not just religions either, governments use the same tricks,
just people don’t want to think for themselves anymore.
It’s just easier to agree and follow orders.
I agree to that. There are also people who really believe
they found the answer to something and make a movement
from it. But also some people believing nothing
creating a movement by astro turfing so it works to
the benefit of these people that might be a totally
different thing than the people in the fabricated
movement think.
Whenever i see people marching in step i have my
doubts.
I have an issue with his ‘osms’ in relation to islam. But really NOT interested in a protracted argument.
Used to talk to a person who lives in Sweden. He claimed there were no such things as ‘no go zones’ and that the bombing across the country were no big deal.
Now, at least some of those with the means, are FLEEING THE COUNTRY, the rapes, murders and bombing have increased several times over, and I can no longer contact him.
Hmmmm.
Most of that problem in sweden is gang wars between local
Hells Angels and mostly migrant Bandidos.
Sweden changed the sex offender laws that boosts up the
numbers to double of what is in USA.
They do have some islamist problems too but that is only part of it.
I think they allowed a kind of separate areas what eases ghetto forming.
Regarding murders – Sweden has a rate of 0.9 per 100000 people,
USA is at 5 per 100000 people. And then all the no go zones.
Why are people not fleeing from USA?
The -isms are comparable in my opinion. You cant get rid of them
by killing one or a few leaders. The islamists live in a bubble that
tells them they need to revive the ideal islam of the 6th century
and what in their heads belongs to it.
They have a strong online presence that tells people in europe and
other places that they are surrounded by pagans and hated altogether.
So they need to “fight back”. With some people they are
successful and the right wing nationalists are a multiplier for that
problem.
People are not fleeing the USA because there’s no need to. Violence is concentrated
in Liberal-run cities, which people are fleeing.
Instead of your constant refrain of how terrible the USA is (As if it’s one homogeneous
society) compared to every-other-nation-on-Earth, how about comparing countries within Europe?
We are a completely different society from the EU model, we don’t want to give up our
freedoms in exchange for the illusion of safety, we don’t want to pay massive taxes
to provide everything for everyone, we don’t want to be afraid of being arrested for
speaking the truth, no matter how badly it offends someone else, we don’t want to see our
daughters raped or stabbed to death while the Police turn a blind eye for fear of being called a bad name
while they imprison someone for speaking out against the rapist.
No, the USA is not perfect and it will never be perfect, but neither is the EU. We’re different societies with
different histories which shaped us differently. I lived in Europe for more than ten years, and have
no desire to return. The things in the EU that you accept I find unacceptable. The USA is superior to the UE,
FOR ME. Whether or not a European finds the USA acceptable is of no real importance. Different
societies, different people, different desires.
The liberal run states also send money to republican run states
– in general, with some exceptions. No, USA is not worse than
all other countries on earth but regarding crime worse than the
other western industrialized countries. Not as bad as russia though.
Europe is less homogeneous than USA. Not only by languages,
also by culture. And people from Paris are culturally closer to
people from Berlin than to people from rural France.
I think in many regards we are more free than US citizens in
others less. There were studies by US universities some years
ago to compare US and German citizens by free to spend money
after taxes and necessary spendings. They came to the conclusion
that the poor 20% are better off in germany and the rich 10% are
better off in USA the people in the middle are quite the same.
We dont like hate speech because it is often followed by death some
time later. Raping is less frequent in germany than in USA. And your
Idea of police in germany is ridiculous.
There are many US citizens moving here because they like it more
than in USA. When they go back they have to learn again to
constantly turn the head to notice threats early i hear very often.
From germans who moved to USA i hear different things.
Some like a lot of things in USA and other things they miss.
Yes, we are different.
My idea of Police in Germany is ridiculous? I expressed NOTHING about the Police in Germany.
Don’t… put words into my mouth or thoughts into my words.
Now, if you actually want to know my thoughts of the Police in Germany, (from 1975-1985 when I was there)
I will be more than happy to share them with you.
But I have not expressed my thoughts of the German police before now.
I can tell you the defining difference between your society and ours simply by referring
to traffic laws. In Germany, you can do nothing without permission from the government.
You’re at an intersection and need to turn right? There’s no blue sign telling you that you
can? Tough, the government hasn’t given you permission.
In the USA, same scenario, no sign. Go ahead and turn, it’s okay.
THAT’S the difference. In Germany, you can’t do anything without permission from
the government. In the USA, you can do whatever you want as long as it’s not forbidden.
You’re used to that, fine. It’s natural for you. It’s not natural for us.
And how did finances come into it? You’re all over the place here, looking for excuses to
criticize the USA, or Conservatives, or the southern states. I’m not going to bother addressing
them, because that’s not what this is about. Stick to the subject: Crime.
What do i need permissions from Government for? There are laws in
place, sure. If people dont like laws they can elect somebody else to
remove that laws. Put in petitions to the parliament is another way.
At an intersection you can turn right unless there is a sign that says
you can not turn right. Sometimes there is a sign that tells you
to the right is a one – way road and you can not go in – you need
to find another way. sometimes
there is a blue sign with a white arrow that tells you, you need to
turn or go straight only at an intersection.
i think in USA people have to pay fines for jaywalking, right?
That means you need a permission from government to cross a road?
At many intersections in rural areas or suburbs there is no sign at all.
Its up to you what you do. Except when there was somebody coming from
the right of you and you have an accident, then its your fault.
You are right. I have some things with the USA that i dont like just as
you have some with my country.
About crimes. When somebody accuses another person as a rapist
the police can do nothing without a witness or any evidence.
Except asking the accused some questions.
I doubt that is different in the USA. I remember the 60 or so cases
for voting fraud that did not succeed by lack of evidence. I think
some lawyers lost their licence for stealing the judges time over that.
If somebody continues accusing a person of a crime without evidence
of course that person can sue back for not continuing that accuses.
To be in the right does not mean you get justice at court when you
dont have anything to support your case.
Oh, did you mean turning right at an intersection with traffic light without
following the light for the straight crossing lanes? Just turn right?
We imported that from the socialist East Germany with the
reunification. One of the few things. People are still not used to it in
West germany. Makes more accidents.
Regarding traffic. It is like that in my place.
OK, this is an extreme case but not that far away.
Netherlands is a bit ahead with the bike traffic.
In other places of germany you dont find that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQSwQLDIK8
Interesting. I was stationed in Stuttgart at Echterdingen Army Airfield for five years. I didn’t find the German laws to be overly restrictive, mostly just different in some ways. Traffic law were comparable to those in the USA except that there was literally no speed limits on the autobahns. That made driving an experience different than in the US. I mean you’re tooling along at 90 mph getting ready to pass a slow poke doing 80. You check the rear view mirror and see absolutely no traffic bend you. So you change lanes to pass and before you even clear the other car, you have a hot rod Porche behind you flashing his lights and honking. As you clear the other car and move to the tight lane, the Porche zips by hitting 120mph or more.
I think the major difference I found was no weapons. I had to keep my S&W .357 in the arms rooms. Another was insurance. I hate the ‘no fault’ system in the US. In Germany if you get in an accident and it’s the other guys fault, it’s their insurance that has to pay and your rates don’t change. I had personal experience with that and didn’t have to spend a penny to get my car fully repaired. You also got to pick whatever repair service you wanted and not limited to what the insurance company wanted.
All that said I still prefer my life in America over living in Germany or anywhere else I’ve travelled in the world. Still… German women and Beerfests, what fun.
here are links to compare crimes in sweden and USA.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Sweden/United-States/Crime/table
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1315123/sweden-homicide-rate/
In August 2018, SVT reported that rape statistics in Sweden show that 58% of men convicted of rape and
attempted rape over the past five years were immigrants born outside of the European Union: Southern
Africans, Northern Africans, Arabs, Middle Easterns, and Afghans. Swedish Television’s
investigating journalists found that in cases where the victims didn’t know the attackers, the proportion
of foreign-born sex offenders was more than 80%. The number of rapes reported to the authorities
in Sweden significantly increased by 10% in 2017, according to latest preliminary figures
from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention. The number of reported rape cases
was 73 per 100,000 citizens in 2017, up 24% in the past decade. Official numbers show that the
incidence of sexual offences is on the rise; the Government has declared that young
women are facing the greatest risks and that most of the cases go unreported.
All those regions countries you listed have at least one thing in common.
They are all dominated by the “Religion of peace”. They all also have
cultures which denigrate and degrade women while excusing any misbehavior
by men. Many of them still allow slavery. Peaceful people do not go
around committing sexual assault. Nor do they execute the victims of
such assault.
Keep in mind on average world wide, it has been
estimated that only 30-40% of rapes and pe do phi lia
are reported or caught, some cultures stone the
woman/children for the act rather than the man.
“They tempted a good man to sin”
riiiiiight….
He’s going to claim that is just ‘some’ islamics,
as though the koran and the commentaries on the
koran don’t all support it. I’ve read them, I know.
And this is exactly why I didn’t want and don’t intend to get in
a conversation with him. He’s going to ignore Reality and vomit
up Leftist-government numbers and claims.
Just like any of the useful idiots we used to deal with at DA.
According to a report published by academic researchers in 2017, shooting incidents with fatal outcomes are
about 4 to 5 times as common in Sweden compared to neighbouring countries such as Germany and Norway
when taking population size into account. The city with the highest prevalence of shootings was Malmö. The
grave violence in the studied period also changed character, from criminal motorcycle gangs to city suburbs.
Sweden also stands out in having a low resolution rate (25%) for gun homicides compared to Germany and
Finland at 90%.
It’s not the Hells Angels anymore. Hasn’t been for years.
Thank you.
Still the numbers of homicides per capita in sweden is one fifth of that in USA.
And the number of rapes is higher only because sweden changed the laws.
No. The laws didn’t gradually change causing the number of rapes to gradually increase, the number of rapes increased
as the number of Islamic invaders increased. There is a correlation there.
Oh, great. Now I can never visit Europe again for fear of being arrested for saying that. Yeah, I’ll stay here
where I am free to speak my mind.
What saying? I hear that kind of thing all the time in TV by some
sort of people. And it is true to some extent.
In sweden they were talking about an agreement app for the
smartphone. Before intercourse both use the app to be sure
the sex is by consent… How crazy is that?
My apologies on two counts:
I changed my first word because it was wrong to speak to you that way.
I was also thinking of England, which has already expressed an intent to
extradite Americans for things said on line… In America.
The last time England tried to force Americans to obey their laws, a bunch
of us crossed the Delaware river at Christmas and told them “no” in a pretty
decisive way.
I feel I should clarify something, my impression of Germany, it’s people, and it’s police.
I spent almost eleven years there.
I loved my time there. My wife was working as an ER nurse, our daughter went to
German schools, and I spent a lot of time in that same hospital, as during peacetime
the Army maintains a surplus of medics. Not much for us to do, really, but treat
soldiers who did stupid things.
So I met a lot of Germans, and liked them very much. I liked many things about
your society and customs, and disliked a few. But as a stranger in a strange land,
I did my best to learn and fit in.
Your Police, at the time (I don’t know if it’s changed) were reputed to be the best in
the world, and from what I saw, they were. I liked and respected them.
I knew many, because Maria, my wife, taught them combat martial arts in our back
yard.
Overall, I loved Germany. One of the things that caused us problems was that Maria
was an Aztec Mexican. She had a… large… nose, a monobrow, a slight mustache, dark
skin and sleek black hair, so most Germans assumed that she was Turkish, which caused
us some problems. In fact, that’s one reason she was an ER nurse. People in pain have
other things to worry about, and there were several Muslim doctors working there as well.
I liked and respect them as well.
My views on different nations and cultures have been mostly shaped by my own personal
experiences, by the people I’ve met.
No problem. I like people who are self reflecting. I try to
do that myself but sometimes i could do better.
There is something about sweden, rape and reporting you
should read. It is hard to compare with other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
No! The real enemy is EXTREMISM! Nothing wrong with fundamentalist
Christians. Neither patriotism nor nationalism are bad. I agree with Sir
Walter Scott who wrote:
“Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!”
Nope. Nope! The problem is extremism!
I have a problem with fundamentalists be it christians or
muslim. It very often leads to totalitarian structures where
some people want to dictate other people what to do, what
clothes to wear what books to read and so on.
There are many fundamentalist Salafist muslim – totally peaceful –
but all the islamists were once Salafists.
I see some of that in some fundamentalist christians.
I hear some of them want a christian america, a
kind of theocracy.
I have no problem with patriotism, i am one because i
love my country.
Nationalism on the other hand wants you to believe that
your country and your people are better than all the others.
that was the main thing of the nazis in germany. It goes hand in hand
with racism. If somebody told you they were socialists,
because that is in their name – they were not. They were
as socialist as the democratic republic of north korea is
democratic. The nazis hated bolshevism and they did not
like the unhinged Manchester kapitalismn either. They did like
entrepeneur personalities. That was their thing – leaders and
a top down governing, a totalitarian control of everything.
Entrepeneurs were liked as long as they bowed their head to
the big leader in Berlin. Similar to the mafia Russia of today,
not exactly the same though.
My point exactly Bill, it’s not modern religion,
it’s the men that want to “return to the old
ways” that are the problem. Just because
something is old, doesn’t make it right. The
old ways were changed for a reason, and
change for the better is right.
Sweden has a home made problem. It let people migrate in and
let them alone. So many had no choice but move into the cheap
suburbs and form ghettos there. Separate from the rest of
society. Now they have a gang problem.
Still the overall criminality and murder rate is smaller than in
USA.
France has some banlieus – ghettos of mainly north africans from
their former colonies. Same problem. UK has a problem with
fundamentalist muslim Pakistanis.
Belgium similar to France. Netherlands has a problem with drug mafia
from the Rotterdam port and a problem with knife culture with the
teenagers – in general not only a certain group of teenagers.
Germany has some bad spots in some bigger cities so i heard.
I was lately to a show in a 300000 people city one hour away and was
asked for some cash not far from the railway station. A woman in her
40s with long blonde hair and obviously not looking healthy.
Probably drug addict.
Germany is bureaucratic as always. Refugees after the Geneve convention
can start working but need to get their profession acknowledged what
can be quite difficult. All need a language course.
Some need to have a certain level of german
language especially in the medical sector. People asking for Asylum
are not allowed to work for at least 6 months or until their claim is decided
about by a court. With so many people now it takes longer.
There are language courses and other things.
Companies have a huge demand for apprentices.Some things should
work better but even though there is so many people who came in the
last years comparison to other countries show that we do quite a good
job in sorting the people in to normal life. Most want to live from their
work. And the people from Syria etc from 2015 and 2016 are paying now
more money into the social system than they take out of it.
– There is a group of people who are more likely to become
criminals though. That are young men from West and North Africa who
got told it will be easy to become rich in germany but often fail to find
a place because lack of school education and probably lack of
monitoring by older relatives and other issues.
One of the things in germany that are a pain in the ass is the
paperwork. It becomes too much. But some is necessary.
Decades ago we got too much Nitrate in ground water in some
areas. Especially with too much pig stys. There were some soft
laws put in place that changed nothing. The farmers had a big
lobby with the conservative government. Some ten years ago
the EU sued germany for the nitrate readings and the laws were
made tough. Farmers had to report anything about buying things,
selling things, what
they did with the liquid manure and all that. Part of the farmers
stopped the pig business, the Nitrate went down, the pig prices
went up. The farmers are still complaining, but dont leave a
word about the nitrate.
Similar with fishing. National laws were useless. The EU made programs
to improve the overfished areas. Made the fishers use nets with bigger
holes so they did not catch the young ones anymore and limited the
amount that was allowed to fish. Now from some kind of fish they
catch more than any fisher can remember. Other kinds of fish are
not as good yet. But in general the managing of the limited source
works well. The fishers alone were going to do genocides on the fish.
My son told me about this game developer in Germany that was
“swatted”, his entire computer hardware/software seized, and
has been fighting to get his drives and 3D files returned
undamaged. Even thought the guy that made the false call ran
to Tia-land, and the total lack of evidence, it’s been a year and
he STILL has to stand trial even though they have hard evidence
that says otherwise. Poor guy has been on hold for over a year.
This guy was accused of running a hacker scam from his home.
Swatting caused the death of a YouTuber ON CAMERA in the USA,
if this had happened here they would be facing a minimum of 10+
years. The dev would have gotten his equipment/files back months
ago. As it is he may never recover his losses, or the respect of
his followers.
That is a sad story.
they do investigate scammers and also possible IS guys.
It sounds more like they were after some drugs or child pornographie.
The police is not holding back there.
I remember a SEK (Swat) team was send to arrest a Hells Angel member.
3 am. He heard it in his bedroom above his bakery, grabbed his
gun and shouted downstairs “who is at the door?” No answer.
More rummaging and so he shot. He killed one of the shot team by
hitting him in the neck above the safety vest. Then they said “police”,
so he dropped the gun and got arrested. In first instance he was
found guilty of murder second degree. In second instance he was
set free for self defense. He was able to show evidence of threats
to his life by some people.
Police kills between 2 and 20 people per year in germany. That would
be max 80 in USA. Swat raids are rare and need an ok by a judge.
I looked for news about swat raids in this year and last year and
did not find it. Some swat team raids of wrong appartments or houses.
Some “sovereign citizens” who did not pay taxes or fees and shot at
officials. So they came back with a swat team.
One was disguised in military outfit with a couple of weapons on the street.
Somebody called police. They found him and raided the appartment – it was
a gamer in costume with fake weapons on the way to gamesCon in Cologne.
Some people arrested or put in psychiatric ward for threatening
people with weapons or being obviously insane.
Some raids in drug and child pornography rings where they usually
take the computer equipment and other information.
Some swatting as you said it.
Nothing about a game developer.
Does not mean that it did not happen, just that i was not able to
find it.
The german police is doing quite well but there are some black sheep
too. A few days ago there was news about a taxi driver on the spanish
island of Mallorca who got manhandled by some passengers. Went to
hospital with broken bones. The bad guys said they were german police
and even tried to bribe the taxi driver and the spanish police. Can be
true – not yet confirmed. Really strange story.
“You are not my enemy, but your empire is”
– Robert Jordan