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TGW-1256

Chapter: Ride for Life
Characters: gopi, Miral, mist
Location: road
└ Tags: life's Ride

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  1. Paul
    May 27, 2024, 20:13 | # | Reply

    Neat picture.
    Great detail down to road texture.
    Thank-you.

  2. Scarsdale
    May 27, 2024, 22:14 | # | Reply

    Great splash scene, I love how Gopi is smiling and
    Mist is hanging on for dear life with her wings back
    and clinging to Miral’s hair.

  3. Chryzopraz
    May 28, 2024, 02:34 | # | Reply

    My opinion might be unpopular here,
    but why don’t they use helmets?

    • Jan
      May 28, 2024, 03:45 | # | Reply

      The helmet thing has been mentioned back
      when Miral started her pilot education.
      The ears were somewhat ‘in the way’…
      That Gobi does not have that excuse is
      IMO not debatable 😉

      • Jan
        May 28, 2024, 03:52 | # | Reply

        It should be mentioned (if not obvious) that I’m pro-helmet.
        My brother was pressed into an accident by some incompetent
        driver and without the helmet his head would have been
        cracked open by that concrete pillar he head-banged…
        (not to mention the road-rash he would have gotten by sliding
        along the asphalt…)

        • Petercat
          May 28, 2024, 05:09 | # | Reply

          I’m pro-helmet myself.
          I just don’t think that it is a proper function of government
          to protect people from the consequences of their own decisions.
          In the Empire, if you want to ride without a helmet,
          anything other than liability insurance will cost you more.

          • TubT
            May 28, 2024, 09:38 | # | Reply

            The problem, of course, is that the average motorcycle head injury
            ends up costing someone over $1,000,000. And that someone is you
            and me. And just educating riders on the importance of a helmet
            doesn’t work, because everyone thinks, “I’m a better rider; it
            won’t happen to me.” Or, as one wag put it, “You can lead a horse
            to slaughter, but you can’t make him think.” To some extent, helmet
            laws protect society in general, and not just the motorcyclist.
            And I guess we could argue where the line between protecting the
            citizen, and protecting the citizenry in general might be.
            Because that’s the basis of libertarianism, right?

            I always wear a helmet. And I have good medical insurance.
            (The law in Texas is that if you’re over 21, you don’t have to wear
            a helmet, as long as you have sufficient medical insurance.)
            Well, I would, if my wife would let me have another two-wheel
            motorcycle, instead of the four-wheel one I current have for fun.
            But I DID wear one, when I rode.
            And I do still have two helmets in my closet.

            • Petercat
              May 28, 2024, 10:19 | # | Reply

              I ride, and I wear a helmet, even in states where I don’t have to.
              “Protecting the public” can be, and has been, used as an excuse
              to limit citizens far too many times. No thanks.
              Freedoms cost, but it’s a price that free people have always paid.
              I like having a lathe and milling machine, even though they’re
              dangerous and could cause me injuries that are more expensive
              to treat than I can afford.
              I like riding a motorcycle, even though if I get into an accident,
              it could cost six figures for the repairs, even with a helmet.
              I like shooting sports, even though guns are dangerous to someone.
              I enjoy a lot of things that, if something goes wrong, could cost the
              public a lot of money.
              Let’s ban wilderness camping and mountain climbing, rescue efforts
              cost a fortune!
              And so it goes. Eventually we’ll all live in padded cells and travel
              inside nerf balls. At a safe 10kph, and only when travel is necessary.

              • Scarsdale
                May 28, 2024, 11:32 | # | Reply

                There was a movie made years ago called “The Last Mimsy”
                about people in the future were so “protected” that they wore,
                for the lack of a better description, space suits. And because
                of that humans lost all natural defenses. In the movie a scientist
                sent back in time these teddy bears with the sole purpose of
                collecting human DNA to recover our lost defenses. It’s a silly
                kids movie, but it has a ring of truth.

              • TubT
                May 28, 2024, 19:50 | # | Reply

                We have this discussion on a regular basis with our New Zealand
                and Australian National T Bucket Alliance (NTBA) members. They
                have myriad hoops they have to jump through to drive a hot rod,
                things no American would stand for. And yes, their government
                says it is to protect the rodders, and the motoring public. So I
                know where “the societal good” argument goes, in both the short
                and long run. And that was my point; libertarianism requires
                individual responsibility, and requires the acknowledgment that some
                people will make bad decisions, and they may have to bear the
                responsibility for those bad decisions, foregoing a bail-out from
                the nanny state.

              • Chryzopraz
                May 29, 2024, 02:58 | # | Reply

                I knew you wouldn’t understand me.
                I couldn’t care less for regulations and
                I know there are none such in the Empire.
                Just every sane person would wear a helmet
                for themselves, and the caring cats wouldn’t
                let a child like Gobi ride without one.

                • Petercat
                  May 29, 2024, 04:57 | # | Reply

                  Wait, what? What’s to understand? You asked a question.
                  If you’re referring to my dissertations,
                  they were replies to Jan and TubT’s comments.
                  I never directly answered you.

                • rob stanley
                  May 29, 2024, 09:05 | # | Reply

                  “understand” .. no reafference. what question.?
                  there are rules,. But it’s your choice to follow it.!
                  . “sane person wear helmet.” ..
                  history is rife with the ‘sane’ NOT doing it right..
                  seat belts were free,. nope, to restricting..
                  helmets WWI trenches,. nope, didn’t do anything.
                  mask stops virus spread,. nope, cant breath..
                  and on and on,,,.!
                  caring cats..: “I don’t wear a helmet.” “why would
                  I make someone wear one.!?”

                  • rob stanley
                    May 29, 2024, 09:16 | # | Reply

                    also,. i ride with a helmet.
                    IF i have a underage rider, not only helmet,
                    but full rider gear.! long sleeves, pants, and
                    boots. no exceptions.!
                    so,, i agree,. no helmet, no ride.!

          • Bill Mullins
            May 28, 2024, 21:34 | # | Reply

            Many years ago, while I had stripes on my sleeves, I read an article
            in “Aerospace Safety” written by the head of surgery and traumatology
            at some big Maryland hospital. I will never forget the conclusion of
            the article. This Doc said he could tell from a motorcyclist’s injuries
            whether they were wearing a helmet or not. If they were wearing a
            helmet their injuries were usually limited to their extremities. If they
            weren’t wearing a helmet they often became organ donors.

            Enough said?

            • Petercat
              May 29, 2024, 15:45 | # | Reply

              I am all for disseminating such information far and wide.
              Information is important in making personal decisions.
              But it should still be just that – A personal decision.

      • Jochi
        May 28, 2024, 10:28 | # | Reply

        For sure didn’t exist when the Cats first got to Terra/Jerico,
        but I’d think some entrepreneur by now would have designed a helmet
        to accommodate Catian physiology, and maybe Dogishuan and a few of
        the other non-human Empire citizens. I don’t recall having seen any
        right now, but I’d bet the Navy has appropriate evac suits for them
        in case of catastrophic hull breach. And probably for doing regular
        maintenance or construction in null atmosphere too. I’ll assume they
        exist off-camera for now, until and if PC gets appropriate models to
        work with.

        • Bill Mullins
          May 28, 2024, 21:39 | # | Reply

          The helmet issue comes down to a basic limitation of the 3D
          imaging technology. I certainly could not construct such a
          model. As PC mentioned below even putting a helmet over hair
          like the Gopi character has would be seriously problematic.

          • rob stanley
            May 29, 2024, 09:32 | # | Reply

            they have cat ear helmet models. (not cheap.)
            and about the only way to get it to work,..
            is to replace the head with the helmet..
            which makes “Awkward” scenes.

        • Petercat
          May 29, 2024, 15:46 | # | Reply

          Big bubble helmets.

          • Jochi
            May 29, 2024, 20:06 | # | Reply

            I had considered that but had no idea
            if it was possible, or practical.

    • Petercat
      May 28, 2024, 05:16 | # | Reply

      Adding a helmet over hair like hers is almost
      impossible when creating these images.

      • rob stanley
        May 28, 2024, 09:27 | # | Reply

        i love the “Anime Logic” of wearing helmets / hoods..
        how the character puts more hair than helmet
        (perfectly) into a helmet,, or.! takes off said helmet
        an no helmet hair.
        https://45.media.tumblr.com/8cadd5f995c4d2f1dee6a4140410ed83/tumblr_ms9xo6wlET1s079ezo10_400.gif

        • Scarsdale
          May 28, 2024, 11:37 | # | Reply

          I had very wavy hair, I would gain about 3 inches of length if my
          hair was wet. Or riding without a helmet, it either had to be cut
          very short or be very long for it to lay down on my head. So going
          bald was more of a gift 😉

          • rob stanley
            May 28, 2024, 18:16 | # | Reply

            way back in the 70’s when i first started to ride,. we called it
            the cabin. but it was the grandparents farm,. we kids (17 an
            younger). were shipped there for the summer (free labor),. to get
            around 3 of us had motorcycles,. as kids we were “Required” to
            wear helmets.. none of the kids liked that,. so they broke, lost,
            threw away, or left ‘elsewhere’..
            after the military i let my hair grow long (about 3 feet),, so it
            went into a pony tail an helmet,. or i saw nothing trying to ride..

          • President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
            May 29, 2024, 15:33 | # | Reply

            Somehow, I cannot imagine you with long wavy hair…..
            Guess ya had to have been there.
            😉

      • TubT
        May 28, 2024, 09:39 | # | Reply

        I would think the ears are the big problem,
        as was discussed long ago.

        • Scarsdale
          May 28, 2024, 11:47 | # | Reply

          Yes, even in the early days during Miral’s training.
          The then Admiral Mistrial was talking about it with
          her newly minted civy assistant.

          • TubT
            May 28, 2024, 19:54 | # | Reply

            Didn’t Miral say even a beret was just too painful to wear?
            Maybe it’s more that just shape, they may have sensitivities
            around their ears that make any pressure painful.

            • Petercat
              May 28, 2024, 20:16 | # | Reply

              You’re right, I forgot about that.
              Try barely touching a cat’s ear.
              It will get annoyed quickly.
              You will bleed slowly.

        • rob stanley
          May 28, 2024, 17:58 | # | Reply

          the biggest problem, is online models..
          i have at least 6 furry books with helmets..
          medieval to sci-fi.. one looks like a Russian
          padded tanker helmet with ear cutouts..
          then there is the “Hair”…
          the easiest way, is to remove the hair model
          and put on bald..

      • Chryzopraz
        May 29, 2024, 03:02 | # | Reply

        That is an answer I can accept.
        Just curious though, if you put a helmet,
        you don’t need to draw hair,
        so why is it a limitation?
        The hair are invisible under the helmet.

        • Bill Mullins
          May 29, 2024, 07:46 | # | Reply

          But with CGI like PC is using you don’t “draw” anything. Everything
          is composed of 3d models. “Hair” on characters is just another model.
          Yes, for Gopi I suspect PC could put a helmet on but for the Cats the
          ears are part of the model and would definitely stick up “through” the
          helmet in much the same way they stick up through a character’s “hair”.
          I don’t know the intricacies of how models can be “rigged” so that they
          can be posed or how the “clothing” can be made to pose with the
          character. The 3d modelling tool provided by Daz (the organization
          which sells the models) allows for all that but I have neither the time
          not (frankly) the inclination to acquire a facility in that software.
          An old dog CAN learn new tricks but not nearly as easily or as
          quickly as a young pup.

  4. Petercat
    May 28, 2024, 05:14 | # | Reply

    I just deleted over 100 spam comments without taking the time to
    read them.
    If you left a comment that doesn’t appear here, I’m afraid that you’ll
    have to repeat it.
    In the future, if you leave a comment that doesn’t appear, let me
    know here in the comments and I’ll look for it before mass-deleting.

    • rob stanley
      May 28, 2024, 09:13 | # | Reply

      same.. when i mass delete,. i try an look..
      but i might miss one..

  5. Dastardly Dan
    May 28, 2024, 06:28 | # | Reply

    Nicely done, sir!

  6. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
    May 28, 2024, 07:13 | # | Reply

    I’m hearing Steppenwolf’s “Born to be Wild”.
    “Get your motor runnin’
    Head out on the highway……”

    • Petercat
      May 28, 2024, 08:17 | # | Reply

      How’s it now?

      • Scarsdale
        May 28, 2024, 11:48 | # | Reply

        Great! Now that song is stuck in my head…
        (stops humming it for the 3rd time)

        • Petercat
          May 28, 2024, 20:21 | # | Reply

          At my age, my riding style is more “Born to be mild”.

          • President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
            May 28, 2024, 21:41 | # | Reply

            “Born to be mild”
            LOL!
            And yes, thanks for adding the music.
            Works GREAT!

          • Scarsdale
            May 28, 2024, 21:44 | # | Reply

            Heh, yeah, I doubt I’d be getting into trouble today,
            even if I could ride…

          • Kiddeagle
            May 29, 2024, 15:10 | # | Reply

            The worst thing about biking at my age is
            the vibrations make for many pitstops. lol

            • Sam
              May 29, 2024, 16:24 | # | Reply

              Ah, but that’s good for the kidneys, no? Or,
              to plagiarize and paraphrase Frozen –

              Let it flow, let it flow . . .

              (ducks for cover)

            • Scarsdale
              May 29, 2024, 19:16 | # | Reply

              I have a smallish bladder (first cancer surgery) so even
              the fizz sound when filling a glass with soda has me
              dashing to the john… I don’t even want to think what
              riding vibrations would do to it!

  7. Bill Mullins
    May 28, 2024, 08:13 | # | Reply

    Okay, I saw the new vote incentive. Nice picture but other than
    it reminding me of “West Side Story” I totally do not get it.
    Head not working that great this morning.

    • Petercat
      May 28, 2024, 08:20 | # | Reply

      It’s a play on my “Bad Bunny” comment Friday:
      “Not that there aren’t a lot of bad people in
      the Empire or it’s various kingdoms…
      (Bad Bunny!) But their stories are usually too
      mundane to be interesting, so I don’t tell them.”

      • Scarsdale
        May 28, 2024, 11:41 | # | Reply

        Pffft! I mentioned that in the comments off
        the bat but PC wanted it to be the vote
        incentive before anyone else seen it. So he
        removed that part of my comment from Friday.
        I don’t blame him, it’s an easy joke to spot.

  8. Scarsdale
    May 28, 2024, 11:41 | # | Reply

    oops! meant that for Bill.

  9. Sam
    May 28, 2024, 14:04 | # | Reply

    Weird. I was seeing that this one had a music track. Clicking on the
    play did nothing. Signed in, and then the play button responded, but
    I couldn’t hear anything. That was a computer issue, for some reason
    the sound module didn’t load. Fine. Rebooted. Now I have speakers
    again, but the music track is missing for this episode.

    • Scarsdale
      May 28, 2024, 21:41 | # | Reply

      It might be a browser issue,
      or you don’t have the codex to run it.
      I’ve had trouble with my browser not refreshing
      a page if I load it more than once a day.
      Firefox is bad for that,
      I don’t know what you’re using Sam.

      • Sam
        May 29, 2024, 02:20 | # | Reply

        Using Firefox. Like I said, once I hit “Post Comment”, it appeared.

  10. Sam
    May 28, 2024, 14:05 | # | Reply

    And . . . as soon as I hit “Post Comment” the Play button is back,
    and it works just fine.

  11. notStanley
    May 28, 2024, 14:24 | # | Reply

    Out in the boonies, looks like _not_ a blind curve,
    and traffic is much less after The Fall;
    still twitched a little at crossing the yellow line :}

    • Petercat
      May 28, 2024, 20:19 | # | Reply

      Yeah, I screwed that one up. And I was so careful to keep
      her tires on the correct side of the line, too.
      Only…it wasn’t.

      • Bill Mullins
        May 28, 2024, 21:43 | # | Reply

        As a former rider I caught that right
        off but forbore to mention it.

      • John Orange
        May 29, 2024, 04:15 | # | Reply

        And I didn’t notice, since that is the correct side for the UK!

    • Jochi
      May 29, 2024, 09:37 | # | Reply

      Miral may have clear line-of-sight well ahead, there is no solid
      yellow “No Passing” stripe, and she may be passing someone.
      Wouldn’t even have to be high speed — there were a lot of
      Amish or Mennonite communities in this area before the Fall.
      Some of them probably survived. Determined folk.

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