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A Matter of Trust.
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TGW-1156

Chapter: Feeling Alone
Characters: capt hrrn'tn, crew, diane, doc, dragonfly, flea
Location: Kirlean Storm, med pod
└ Tags: Because we can, carrot before stick

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  1. Paul
    October 2, 2023, 20:09 | # | Reply

    Rescued, because it’s the right thing
    to do and Seth is linked to our Empress.
    The two don’t really know
    what they have unleashed in the Bunnies.
    They will soon learn.

  2. Bill Mullins
    October 2, 2023, 20:50 | # | Reply

    “Why did you go to all the trouble to rescue us?”
    Mostly because the Empress has a psychic connection to him
    which was threatening her sanity. AND it was the right thing to do.
    Sometimes (not often) the universe allows everyone to profit.
    (Be careful looking in horses’ mouths.)

    • Scarsdale
      October 2, 2023, 22:09 | # | Reply

      They can’t tell Diana that, but once they are back home and able
      to meet Teresa, she’ll decide whether or not to tell her, I’m quite
      sure Seth will know Teresa within seconds. This is the biggest
      issue the Empire faces, no one believes there’s no strings attached.

  3. Scarsdale
    October 2, 2023, 22:26 | # | Reply

    That poor girl, barely of age to have children and already as cynical as a 40 y/o.
    Don’t fret darlin’ these people won’t force you to work, they give you the
    opportunity to work for YOURSELF! And the choice to help the Empire in the
    process…

    PC you dog! Bill and I have been talking about that ship and you go and give
    us a close up?!? 😛 It does bare a very close resemblance to the proposed design
    for the warp ship those RL scientists have been displaying. Nothing like the ST
    Enterprise warp ship, too short and slimmer ring profile. That looks more like
    a P’teran LR Scout with a much bigger drive section. Plus the nacelles and rings.

    • Jochi
      October 3, 2023, 12:35 | # | Reply

      This is more or less what I was going to reply to your statement above it:
      There ARE strings attached, but they’re flexible and voluntary. You have
      incurred a debt, an Obligation. How you respond to it is up to you, and
      will tell us what we need to know about you. If you ask we will give you
      options, but we WON’T tell you what do do, that would spoil the test.

      I started to ask if this is how Pterans treat their own cadets, and it occurs
      to me it probably is. They’re reptiles. Think of sea turtles: OK, kids, egg
      times over. The sea’s over there. Mind the seagulls and RUN! Prove you
      deserve to survive.

      • Scarsdale
        October 3, 2023, 15:01 | # | Reply

        Yes and no, many times they have said “If you want to join, there will be
        responsibilities. If not, you’re free to go.” Those 2 are freed slaves, nothing
        more. Teresa herself said what Seth does after he recovers is up to him,
        and his sister, but they will give the offer to join and live the right way.
        If they leave, there’s a HUGE risk it’ll happen again and no one will come
        to their aid this time. I’m sure Diana will realize this.

        Anytime there’s a time crunch, normal steps are skipped and the recruits
        are subjected to extreme training, The Empire has done it multiple times
        before, starting with the Wolf Pack. You’re no doubt right about the P’tera,
        but it also fits in with the Empire’s ideas.

        • Scarsdale
          October 3, 2023, 15:02 | # | Reply

          *You’re no doubt right*

  4. StripeCoat
    October 2, 2023, 23:41 | # | Reply

    Why indeed, because the Empire hates slavery and that is
    what Seth and his sister were being treated as.

    I think it is a staged scenerio;
    EASY; The existing invasion force but with upgraded weapons
    and systems compared to what is expected. Logical purpose to invade the
    rabbits home and strip-mine the planet. The upgraded weapons and systems the
    Empires best guess at the new/refurbished war fleet of the core.
    DIFFICULT; the current force is passing through the system; to be followed
    by a much stronger force which appears as the captain deals with the current force.
    Logical purpose to invade the Dogishun (have I got that name right?) system.
    IMPOSSIBLE; A third wave of ships appear via FTL. Logical purpose to start the
    hot war with the Empire by invading Catia
    UNLIKELY; my cascade failure of the ship’s system while they are distracted with current fleet.
    THE RED HERRING; any of the above, but it isn’t a simulation.

    • Scarsdale
      October 3, 2023, 09:08 | # | Reply

      The Buns have been hiding from an invasion for a while and the computer knows this,
      so it’s depicting that very scenario to them to see if they can handle it calmly and to
      act accordingly. I agree that it’s more logical it isn’t here for the Buns, but on it’s way
      to mess with the Dogs, if they stay calm and not trigger an attack, they would be able
      to know that the Dogs were more than able to handle the attack and keep a watchful
      eye on what they were going to do. I doubt it’s real, the Captain would of been
      sprinting back to the bridge if it were.

  5. Scarsdale
    October 3, 2023, 09:18 | # | Reply

    I believe her worries will fade once they see how the Empire functions,
    meeting Teresa and Johnathan will go a long way for that. I feel once
    she knows it to be true, that the Legion would be a good choice for her,
    to give back what she’s been given. The same for Seth, once he knows
    how much Teresa cares for the Legion, and it’s the safest place for
    someone with his abilities since most of them know about Teresa’s

  6. Bill Mullins
    October 3, 2023, 10:32 | # | Reply

    Think about it.
    https://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/DbUcWKq.jpg

    • Scarsdale
      October 3, 2023, 14:46 | # | Reply

      I don’t have to, I already knew. to try and force the entire world to switch
      over is a pipe dream, no one has the power production or the infrastructure
      to support that massive amount of power that charging that many EV’s at
      once would require. Push it yes, OVER TIME, not overnight.
      I seen a interview with Neil Tyson Degauce who was asked about this,
      And he launched into a detailed explanation.
      Basically he compared crude oil to salt, salt was a food preservative, you had to
      have it or risk starving during the winters, when the ice box and refrigeration
      was invented it was down-sized to a seasoning. He said it will be what will
      happen to crude oil, when the world is ready to produce enough power for all
      those EV’s, crude oil will become no more important that salt is now. I like the
      sound of that myself…

    • notStanley
      October 3, 2023, 15:51 | # | Reply

      yeah, these early stages of are often just moving legacy resource consumption further back
      in the chain. But gotta start somewhere, and hopefully the larger generators are properly
      using their economies of scale to be more efficient than scattering so many smaller engines
      around. When will folk realize those in-ground fuels are limited resources, and much more useful as
      industrial feed stock, instead of just burning them :{

      We only get one cradle world, it should be a wilderness park, not an industrial park.

      • Scarsdale
        October 3, 2023, 19:44 | # | Reply

        An industrial world decorated with plastic,
        soot, and the bones of dead animals, yes….

      • Scarsdale
        October 3, 2023, 20:01 | # | Reply

        Progress is a slow, lumbering animal, it doesn’t move fast,
        and it rarely moves the way we want. But it does move. I
        blame those people in places of power that can’t be bothered
        with facts and figures, knowledge, or understanding. All they
        know is they want it, they want it bad, and they want it NOW.
        They don’t care what or who it harms, or the downside, only
        the bragging rights of getting it first. If you pressure the beast
        of change, it may run away, crushing and destroying anything
        in it’s path,or suddenly sit down and not move. But if you
        guide it along the right path, at it’s own pace, wondrous things
        happen. If they rush the needed changes that EV needs to
        happen, every part of the world economy will crash, and things
        will get way more harder to deal with.

      • Petercat
        October 4, 2023, 00:05 | # | Reply

        Well, we could always go with modern nuclear reactors and end
        the problems with wind and solar – such as the recycling and
        other environmental issues – once and for all.
        But until an electric car can match my minivan, no thanks.
        It gets 500 miles on one “charge”, takes me five minutes to
        recharge for another 500, and I can carry a spare “battery”
        behind the passenger seat that’s good for another 125 miles.
        Plus, with the proper hitch, it can tow it’s own weight for
        400 miles before it needs another 5-minute charge.
        And getting power lines run out here so my neighbors and I
        could have fast chargers would cost more than my land did,
        so again, no thanks.
        And then there’s the resale value. My minivan, at 14 years
        and 125,000 miles, is worth about $6000. An EV that’s only
        5 years old is effectively worthless, as a replacement battery
        costs more than the rest of the car is worth.
        IF the manufacturer even makes a replacement by then.
        *cough* Ford Focus *cough*
        Will a scrapyard even accept one, considering the problems of
        dealing with the worn-out battery?

        • Scarsdale
          October 4, 2023, 04:08 | # | Reply

          And there is the biggest reason the lower 80% of US folk
          will never own one, the slow charge rate, the costs, and
          of course the idiots that pull the EV in for an oil change!
          HA!
          I’m sure it was staged, but I seen a short on YouTube,
          a tall, sexy, skimpily dressed gal open the hood, and
          proceed to pour a gallon jug of motor oil all over the
          engine…
          I weep for our species!
          That’s is the true reason EV’s will take much longer to be
          a viable replacement, while the tech is advancing, it’s just
          not ready for wide spread use, and I don’t see any of us
          being able to own one in our life times. Tesla, to date,
          is the closest EV to practical use, if you can afford a lease
          for a $130,000 USD. No point in buying one, after 7 years
          it would be cheaper to buy another. My father bought his
          ’59 6 months before I was born for $1,200 and drove it until
          I was 17, got 25 MPG, even after he hopped it up.

          • Bill Mullins
            October 4, 2023, 08:02 | # | Reply

            EVs will never – CAN NEVER – replace CEVs. The universe’s most
            fundamental laws prohibit batteries from ever being as energy dense
            as chemical fuels. Solar and wind power (which are really the same)
            will never be reliable. They will always be intermittent AT BEST! Our
            entire civilization is based upon abundant, inexpensive energy. Any
            move away from that will cost lives – IN THE MILLIONS! – and result
            in untold disruptions. I believe our political masters – the Klaus
            Schwabs, the Justin Trudeaus, the John Kerrys, the Bill Gates –
            know damned good and well there is no climate crisis. Do they build
            their homes on mountain side or beach fronts?! Once upon a
            time CO2 was MANY TIMES what it is today and the earth abides.
            Once upon a time mammoths grazed upon sub-tropical plants
            IN SIBERIA! The definition of an ice age (which we are
            in right now) is permanent ice caps on the poles. Apparently
            there have been times in the past when the poles were ice
            free! When the sahara was a rain forest to rival the amazon.
            And it may well be that green again some day with higher
            CO2 levels. But real climate scientists such as Dr. Judith
            Curry say there is no climate crisis. In fact they say things
            are about to get cooler – A LOT COOLER! Expect it to begin
            around 2030. Note: I am not a “climate denier”. I am a “climate
            CRISIS denier”! We.homo saps are marvelously adaptable critters.
            And the earth is pretty damned robust.

            • Scarsdale
              October 4, 2023, 15:28 | # | Reply

              The only way that full conversion to electric would be for a game I like:
              the Fallout franchise. In the games they depict a pre-war society built
              entirely on 2 things the US developed, a cure for radiation sickness,
              and cold fusion reactors that were no bigger than a soda can. With a
              shelf life of 200+ years. They were named “Fusion cells” and fit in SO
              many different devices. Downside is if the cell was ruptured, it exploded.
              Cars didn’t use the fusion cells, they had a reactor that was “safe” for
              driving, but you still needed a coolant to keep it from going super-critical.
              Gas stations were replaced with coolant stations.

              • Scarsdale
                October 4, 2023, 15:42 | # | Reply

                FYI, if you were to find a car with it’s reactor intact in the wasteland, shooting
                it would result in a small nuclear explosion, and radiation. Safe my ass!
                (CLANK!)
                Ow, my ass… Where the hell do these safes keep coming from?!?

              • markm
                October 5, 2023, 10:06 | # | Reply

                I’m dubious about how much of an explosion you’d get from a ruptured fusion reactor. Unlike a fission reactor where you load up
                3 to 10 years worth of fuel at a time, and the waste products stay with the fuel until it’s re-loaded,
                fusion happens in a fraction of a second, if it occurs at all, and the waste products are removed immediately.
                The reaction occurs at very high temperature and pressure, but its only a tiny bit of fuel in the reactor at any moment.
                For a small reactor to power a car (50 – 200KW), I think the charge will be less than a milligram of heated and compressed plasma.
                Rupture the containment, and I think you get a loud pop and a bright flash.
                It’s bad to be in or right next to the car, but a sniper will at most need to protect his eyes from the flash.

        • Scarsdale
          October 4, 2023, 04:19 | # | Reply

          And no scrapyards don’t take EV’s you have to
          return them to the dealerships for recycling,
          the batteries are too toxic to be just scrapped,
          they have to be recycled at the few places to
          be chopped up, and the paste recovered for
          use in a new battery. A very few places do that.
          So all the used batteries funnel into the few.

          • markm
            October 5, 2023, 10:19 | # | Reply

            If there were enough EV’s, scrapyards would get the tools and training to remove the batteries first, and probably ship them to a
            specialized recycling facility. Recycling a Lithium battery is a whole new process requiring new equipment, but there’s a lot of value
            to recover in a ton of battery. It will be profitable – if the quantities are sufficient.

            So we’re back to the big problem – instead of building more of the natural gas, coal, or nuclear power plants we’ll need when tens
            of millions of Americans come home from work and plug in their cars to recharge overnight, those who would rule us are actually
            closing the reliable plants, and pretending to replace them with unreliables. Either they’re so stupid they think you can charge from
            solar cells at night, or their real plan is to take away personal transportation, and control us through mass transit.

            So I would not be investing in EV or Li-Ion battery recycling…

    • Wandering in America
      October 4, 2023, 02:19 | # | Reply

      But how will the ruling elite tyrants maintain control???
      What else matters to them?

      Here’s on: You will own nothing, and you will be happy.

      You will eat bugs.
      You will gut down your trees and dig coal when your government virtue signals
      and closes down all or the country’s nuclear electric power plants. Then someone
      blows up or turns off your incoming natural gas pipelines. How could it get worse?
      Oh. Someone dumped old batteries and worn out wind power blades. Then it gets worse.
      They get nothing.

      • Scarsdale
        October 4, 2023, 04:36 | # | Reply

        “But how will the ruling elite tyrants maintain control???”
        Through propaganda and social media, you are expected
        to LIKE poverty and all the things your wondrous leaders
        tell you to believe, like the good little minions you are…

  7. Wandering in America
    October 5, 2023, 00:56 | # | Reply

    That gets people eventually turning into the Legion and helping people like the brother
    and sister because it is what people do.

  8. JasonAW3
    October 5, 2023, 10:44 | # | Reply

    While there are no APPARENT strings attached, there ARE implied
    conditions. It can be summed up in two words; “Do Better”.
    In short, even if they don’t join the Empire, be better people than
    those who did wrong by those rescued. Lead by example.

    One thing that the Pterens are about to discover. While rabbits
    are typically fairly docile creatures, when threatened and cornered,
    they are NASTY fighters!

  9. Michael
    May 21, 2024, 12:23 | # | Reply

    About the invasion. I would say if it was real and not a computer test scenario, the computer would inform the Pteros. Right?

    • Petercat
      May 21, 2024, 16:33 | # | Reply

      Only if it was programmed to, but then the programmers would have
      to have anticipated the possibility.

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