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TGW-1050

Chapter: Affair of Honor
Characters: Flame, sally, Slinom, Smoke, Taritha
Location: bunker, Ptero
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Discussion (41) ¬

  1. Paul
    January 27, 2023, 20:44 | # | Reply

    The administrators are the ones who run the show.
    Some bosses never figure it out.
    Possibly there won’t be a duel.

  2. Jan
    January 27, 2023, 20:52 | # | Reply

    Blonde she might be, but stupid? Appearantly not…

    First the stick and then some carrots…

    • Scarsdale
      January 27, 2023, 22:38 | # | Reply

      She sure packed enough, that backpack is bigger
      than any field pack I’ve ever seen! I understand
      her desire over then books most of mine were
      ruined during a major move, I still miss ’em.

      • Petercat
        January 28, 2023, 02:13 | # | Reply

        She survived one Fall of Civilization, so when she learned of the Imperial
        pilot, decided that her original bug-out bag wasn’t nearly large enough.

        • JasonAW3
          January 30, 2023, 15:58 | # | Reply

          We know she is quite strong with both her figure and the size of that pack.
          Maybe a former Marine?

  3. Scarsdale
    January 27, 2023, 22:31 | # | Reply

    I have had my share of stupid bosses, a pair of them
    arguing cost a friend of mine 3 degree burns over
    30% of his body and a week of downtime. Over a stupid
    chess game… long story and a year of nightmares.

    Ah olive it is, I hope she can get through to Slimy, but I do
    think they softened him up enough! Although, being in the
    middle of a pissed-off giant cat and and equally pissed-off
    raptor would give anyone pause… if not setting a record
    for the 100 yard dash! XD

  4. Petercat
    January 28, 2023, 02:30 | # | Reply

    He sounds like a man I would have loved to know.
    It hurts to even read it:
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2023/01/27/tyre-nichols-remembered-as-beautiful-soul-with-creative-eye/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter_dallasnews

    • Dastardly Dan
      January 28, 2023, 06:18 | # | Reply

      I’ve missed this story until very recently. What excuse did the thugs give for killing him?

      • Bill Mullins
        January 28, 2023, 08:43 | # | Reply

        Excuse? They’re pigs. In their minds they don’t need an excuse!

        There are 2 two subspecies of Law Enforcement Officer. On the one hand are Cops; who enforce the
        law. On the other hand are Pigs; who consider themselves TO BE the law. Apparently Tyre
        Nichols encountered a pack of Pigs. One hopes those miscreants will be convicted and that Nichols’
        family is able to derive some comfort from the knowledge that, in prison society, former LEOs are
        even more reviled than child molesters.

        • President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
          January 28, 2023, 09:12 | # | Reply

          Bill,
          I would add that there is a third subspecies of LEO, the Peace Officer.
          The rarest of the rare, they know and enforce the law, but they’re also
          willing to bend it a little bit in the interests of justice and peace.
          They must be comfortable with themselves, willing to walk alone,
          as their fellow LEOs are usually pack animals, following the herd,
          right or wrong.

        • Dastardly Dan
          January 29, 2023, 13:26 | # | Reply

          The immunity that LEOs have from being punished for their crimes needs to stop. This bunch needs to be sued for millions, and when their personal assets are depleted, it should come from the retirement fund of the force. The peer pressure from that would straighten them out quickly

          • me
            January 29, 2023, 14:31 | # | Reply

            Immunity of executive personal is always problematic.

            Be it government, other layers of the administration,
            military or police.

            Their job is to implement and uphold the law.
            Not to stand above it.

      • Petercat
        January 28, 2023, 10:54 | # | Reply

        It was a traffic stop, supposedly for reckless driving. No evidence of that has been provided yet.
        After he’d stopped and was out of his car, for some reason he ran on foot.
        Maybe it was simply “He disrespected us”? Anyway, don’t look up photos of him in the
        hospital. Trust me, they’re brutal.

        • Scarsdale
          January 28, 2023, 11:12 | # | Reply

          I can guess, I couldn’t watch the entire report, brought back too many
          memories of my own experience.

        • me
          January 29, 2023, 06:02 | # | Reply

          What I really don’t get: according to the news
          I read the officers involved were from some kind
          of task force for fighting against organized crime.

          How’s stopping a person for “reckless driving”
          supposed to fall into their line of working?

          • Scarsdale
            January 29, 2023, 10:44 | # | Reply

            Only thing I can figure is he was black and might of drifted over the
            line a little so they used it as an excuse to pull him over. I’ve had a
            cop pull me over, asked me where I was going, was I drinking, where
            I was coming from, I answered home, no and from work. When this
            goof realized I wasn’t a DUI he said I had a licenses plate light out
            and let me go with a warning. I was barely a 1/2 mile from home so
            I got out and looked, both lights were on. It’s a ploy cops often use
            to pull anyone over to make it “legal” to do so.

            • me
              January 29, 2023, 11:35 | # | Reply

              Yeah, sure.

              But what about them being part of a task force
              against organized crime?

              Shouldn’t they be, like, all over some Mobsters tax
              declaration or something? Or bugging the phones
              of a local drug dealer? Or maybe busting a gang joint?

              “Hey Mr! Your rear bumper needs a paint job!” is
              something for run of the mill beat cops, not for a
              special unit, is it?

              • Scarsdale
                January 29, 2023, 19:09 | # | Reply

                That’s why this is so wrong, they shouldn’t of bothered
                the man, it still sounds like they were bored and he was
                unlucky.

                I grew up in a high-crime area, anyone under 30 and
                driving a crappy car was pulled over often. It sucks
                and is hugely unfair, but that’s how it works.

                • me
                  January 30, 2023, 09:09 | # | Reply

                  In other words: it’s not just me who doesn’t
                  understand it.

                  • Scarsdale
                    January 30, 2023, 15:13 | # | Reply

                    I really do wish every news station here would stop playing that video,
                    I feel for his family. That’s not easy to watch on any level. You can see
                    the rips in his clothes and every one is bloody.

    • Scarsdale
      January 28, 2023, 11:06 | # | Reply

      I seen that poor man on a ABC news report, Those pigs just aren’t talking
      publicly about it. Makes me wonder if they were using some drug or were
      just in a mind for a fun evening beating and picked the least “deserving” by
      mistake. Memphis is lucky so far there wasn’t a huge riot, yet. If anyone
      deserves Catian justice, it’s those 5.

  5. Ned Moore
    January 28, 2023, 16:48 | # | Reply

    Reckon I lost track somewhere.
    Wondering who is the gorgeous blonde lady
    with the enormous back pack.

    • Scarsdale
      January 29, 2023, 10:26 | # | Reply

      Either a side note or a new character, it’s bigger than a
      field pack too, she won’t be able to run well much less walk
      through house doors without ducking down a bit. Plus
      she’s going to have one heck of a duck-walk when she
      takes it off! My boy scout pack was maybe 1/3 the size.

  6. Ned Moore
    January 28, 2023, 16:53 | # | Reply

    I was thinking that her setup there was bigger then the USMC pack I had as a boy scout.
    I could load the thing with more stuff than I could carry well . . .

    • Scarsdale
      January 29, 2023, 10:31 | # | Reply

      I just noticed, she doesn’t have the hip strap on…
      Man, her poor shoulders! I made that mistake, once…

  7. me
    January 29, 2023, 10:36 | # | Reply

    By the way: the idea of hitting somebody so hard
    that they will never contemplate war again in the
    future …

    If the other side is even remotely like humans that
    would never work.

    Fear and pain can only lead to hatred. The next
    generation will probably inherit the hatred, but they
    will never listen to their parents if trying to tell
    them they can’t win.

    “Scaring them straight” might work with individuals,
    it will never work with an entire society.

    • Jochi
      January 29, 2023, 12:33 | # | Reply

      In principle and in generral I agree. It’s a recurring theme in Turtledove’s series
      that span generations, that are thinly-disguised reskins of actual history. I’ll
      refrain from citing real-world examples and counter-examples this time, but you
      can easily find both.

      • me
        January 29, 2023, 13:48 | # | Reply

        Just try to imagine how “well” that strategy
        would work with the Catians at the receiving
        end …

        • Scarsdale
          January 29, 2023, 19:01 | # | Reply

          Catians believe in “at any cost” so if they lose, they’re gone.
          Only the kits would survive, if any.

          • me
            January 30, 2023, 00:41 | # | Reply

            And how do you think the kits would feel about it?

            “It’s our old gov’ments fault! We really had it coming”
            or rather “just you wait til I’m all grown up. I’ll show you!”

            I really don’t think you can quench the thirst for revenge
            by hitting swift and hard.

            • Scarsdale
              January 30, 2023, 15:19 | # | Reply

              Beating the living crap out of an enemy is pretty much a short-term
              result, like you say the losers won’t forget. However, if they in turn
              make peace, help the survivors, and educate them, it might stop the
              next time, but that’s only a best-case assessment.

              • me
                January 30, 2023, 15:41 | # | Reply

                That does work sometimes.

                You need to be careful about the “education” part. tho.
                Not enough and they might not learn.

                Try to stuff it down their throats and they won’t swallow
                it.

      • Dastardly Dan
        January 30, 2023, 06:35 | # | Reply

        Also a theme in “Ender’s Game”
        That’s how he got the name Ender

        • Bill Mullins
          January 30, 2023, 09:42 | # | Reply

          Actually, no, that’s not how he came to be called “Ender”. He was already “Ender” before he ever went to that
          military academy in orbit. His real name was “Andrew” but when his siblings were little they couldn’t pronounce
          his name and called him “Ender”.

          • Dastardly Dan
            January 31, 2023, 06:38 | # | Reply

            My memory says it was from an incident at school on Earth.
            Guess it’s time to re-read.

    • notStanley
      January 30, 2023, 14:32 | # | Reply

      Those who say violence does not solve anything, just have not used enough.

      • me
        January 30, 2023, 15:12 | # | Reply

        Short of wiping them out you can not bludgeon
        any larger group of people into permanent submission.

        Eventually they will revolt.

  8. Paul
    January 29, 2023, 20:53 | # | Reply

    I can’t follow this anymore. What about the ‘others that
    came and “chatted” while he was dying? Even the ambulance crew.
    I think they should all be hauled in as well.

    • Dastardly Dan
      January 30, 2023, 06:38 | # | Reply

      Anyone involved that caused him harm, or did nothing to alleviate the harm should be brought up on the appropriate charges ranging from murder to manslaughter to accessory after the fact.

    • Scarsdale
      January 30, 2023, 15:25 | # | Reply

      No one bothered because he was a “perp” and didn’t deserve it.
      I get their excuse, but I don’t support it. Civil servants get to the
      point where it’s just a job, nothing more. At the cost of the people
      that suffer due to that feeling.

      • me
        January 30, 2023, 15:59 | # | Reply

        The whole deserve/does not deserve discrimination
        is just wrong.

        If you find somebody on the ground who’s bleeding
        to death – do you stop for a minute and decide if they
        “deserve” to be rescued? Or do you try your best to
        help them?

        If some eighteen year old girl gets raped – does it really
        matter if she spent her time partying or going to church
        daily?

        If the police catches somebody – anybody – they should
        secure him, arrest him and try to put him to trial.
        Even if he were as guilty as the black hell, it simply is not
        their job to judge nor punish him.

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