I think this calls for a DOUBLE OHOH.
Both parties are in deep doodoo.
What’s that old song “Buried alive.”
No Staying alive. Ain’t happening.
Ser Slinom is on borrowed time as well. I believe.
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
It occurs to me that the Empire.doesn’t actually need to destroy the bunker. All its troops need to
do is sufficiently damage the entrances and exits to ensure nobody could possibly escape – and
let nature take its course. They have to run out air or provisions eventually. “What a shame. Dear
Leader is trapped underground and the experts tell us we cannot dig him out in time.”
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
Could be.
But I was thinking along the lines of waaaaay back when the gravity drive was invented,
the scientists weren’t quite sure of what they had, and they accidentally put the gravity
engine into positive feedback overdrive……and made a laaaarge crater.
I’m not going to look for the strip, and I may be wrong.
If I am, I’m sure PC and Krew will correct me.
But it’s fun to imagine.
A “gravity bomb” is untested and to be honest, no better than a nuke.
It could rip all the buildings in the town to shreds or yank then off their
foundations in a microsecond before it goes poof, and the crater left by
the test was only 80 feet, not 600. a true “god-rod” would leave too much
deviation to the town, they would want a surgical strike.
That’s what I mean, the “god-rod” concept was the size of a telephone pole.
a kinetic missile (no explosives) with a grav drive could drive in deep enough
to collapse a bunker and do little damage to the surrounding area.
A few rocks dropped from orbit will no doubt crater the building,
but the splash effect will drive mass up and down for hundreds
of feet. I kinda doubt the Empire will just throw meteors however,
too great a risk to the entire town. They don’t want to risk the
entire town, the the a-holes running it. A few missiles from orbit
will do very nicely and make a very clear message.
As I seem to remember, they stated the mansion is more or less, a fortification.
Drop a Kinetic Kill device through the roof, and you should contain most of the
blast…
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
Does anyone here have habits that they picked up in the military or other job?
I’ll start:
1) I haven’t thrown a cigarette butt on the ground since a Sergeant Major saw me
throw one on -HIS- grass. In 1975.
Some lessons become a scar on your soul.
2) I realized this morning that I still start my car with the door open, seat belt off,
and my feet on the ground. Because of terrorists targeting GI cars for bombs in the
1980’s. Same reason I back into parking spaces when I can. I’m never in a hurry to
arrive, but I might be in a tearing hurry to leave.
Not so much on a job, and I was never in the military, but I almost always back in to parking spaces.
Backing in is usually pretty easy, and allows easier egress. Backing out if somebody parks a big truck
next to you blocking your view, or there is busy parking lot traffic, is more difficult.
1: Counting, I spent time as a stacker at the end of a assembly line, the habit stuck.
2: After dealing with downtown Gary, IN in the ’70s, I became VERY careful about
watching for shadows and odd noises at night, still give corners of building a wide
pass, too many mugging attempts.
3: Knee-jerk reaction to a fire siren, once a fireman, always one.
Just a few.
1. Just because the breaker is open does not mean the
circuit is de-energized, verify it is dead before sticking your
dickskinners in there.
2. Plan for worst case scenario and you’ll be prepared when it’s
not that bad.
The densest materials we know of are tungsten, uranium
or gold; about 8 times as dense as concrete.
So if the projectile is like 25 meters long it would penetrate 600ft of
concrete or similar dense matter. (Probably more than enough
to reach down there, since only 140ft are concrete, the rest is
probably mostly rock)
You should add a ft or two for passing through the atmosphere
by the way.
On the other hand, the thingy doesn’t have to actually hit them
directly.
The shock wave of a large impact is powerful enough
to change mineral composition.
And let’s not forget: for those down there, surviving
the impact is not enough. Eventually they’d have to get
out of there, don’t they?
I’m pretty sure the “staircase” will be destroyed long
before the bunker itself is.
The Empire has long dealt with wanna-be gods in this manner,
let them THINK they are safe and seal them in, no escape. I
love it! Clearly Capt Mike will wash his hands and move on.
These dim bulbs have no idea what a meteor strike is like at
ground zero.
Ah Slimy, keep poking those lions and ignore the open cage door.
Very soon P’tero will rival any fleet of the core and then some!
I can’t wait until Friday to see what Taritha is up to or going to
say to the blustering fool, seeing how she and Ann’gijn are those
lions!
A) Oops – ferschluggin’ typo . . Yes, Taritha, a former gypsy kitty.
I am glad her crew is with her.
B) That is sorta like the injured guy who said, “Call me an ambulance.”
And the beatnik said – “OK, man. You are an ambulance.”
– – – sorry, Sam, I just couldn’t resist. . . . . 😀
Maybe I should have.
Then again – the Cat who knows, has not said. . . .
but who knows what the Cat will do.
– – – – –
I was 35 years in various aspects of military, but never backed in a vehicle.
Well, OK, perhaps a few helicopters, but never an airplane.
We had to drive into forwards to the painted parking spot – or go around and try again.
Wait – you are right – we pulled the planes into the revetments tail first. . . .
😀
FWIW – Grocery store backer-inners are quite dangerous, IMHO.
Never understood people backing into parking spaces. Backing out is far
easier than backing in and driving in is enormously easier than backing in.
I love watching some dipshit taking 5 minutes and 4 tries to back into a
parking space he could’ve driven into in under 30 seconds. Plus if it’s angle
parking he ends up pointed the wrong direction!
It is inherently safer. The parking space is somewhat of a controlled area, no morons whizzing by and (usually) no brain dead pedestrians in the parking slot. But it’s not for angles.
for work I drive an F350 with full crew cab and an 8 foot bed. About half the time I’m pulling a trailer too. That takes two angled slots, so I’m almost always aimed the wrong direction, but I stay in the far reaches of the lot.
Okay, I’m going to modify my earlier statement regarding backing into parking spaces.
It depends.
At work, I usually back in, but it’s because the parking spots are so narrow, that I’ll usually
go passenger door to passenger door, allowing me to park 6″ away on the right side and
have room to actually open my driver’s side door.
Also, if I’m not alone in the vehicle, I’ll probably go nose in, but in a space that allows doors
to open on both sides. Preferable is two parking spaces nose to nose. Then I’ll pull through
so I can simply pull out forwards when leaving.
I had to quit doing that after my neck fusion, can’t turn it enough
to look behind me. Between the back and neck I have very little flexing
between neck to nads heh…
I used to drive a GMC 2500 4X4 try pulling that in, in either direction,
damn parking spots are almost always too small. I still have it, but after
letting a buddy of my son work on it, it barely runs. The shop I took it to
spent more time fixing his screw-ups than anything, even the brain had
to be factory reset. That and it gets only 12 mph…
This has been all an act to trick SS crew into getting the wrong
ideas about the Pride and the Empire, Taritha is just going to
stir the pot a bit more. Offer the olive branch in peace, and when
he tries to throw it back, slap him/her/it in the face with it!
Or just be the one holding the stick with a carrot, appeal to
their greed privately.
I have been assuming the Hammerheads are predators, too, from the name.
But it does begin to appear that Ser Slinom has more in common with a
gastropod than a shark, and it’s just the shape of the skull resulting from the
wide-set eyes replacing actual eye-stalks that gives them the nickname. And
yes, I think it’s a nickname like Shitbat, not the name they call themselves by.
But we’ll see.
Detestible as the racists now running the CSA are, and vile as their treatment
of the Catian pilot was, let’s not forget the Empire is on questionable ground
here. She was participating in a war between foreign nations, granted in a
support role rather than a combat one, and apparently with Imperial sanction
or possibly under Imperial orders. And I’ll grant simply capturing or killing her
would have been way different from what they did. This would be like a civilian
medic in war being killed or captured by the enemy.
Upsetting but unlikely to raise public furor — they knew the risks. However,
mounting their head as a trophy and making a spectacle of their mutilated body —
that might start a public outcry for a military response.
The only involvement the Empire has in this is to allow its
personnel to take unpaid leave to assist Waukenda, and to
lease equipment. Same as the Cactus Air Force.
Except for Larissa, her mission is with Imp Intel.
Waukendan Command is calling the shots on this mission.
They are highly pissed.
I think this calls for a DOUBLE OHOH.
Both parties are in deep doodoo.
What’s that old song “Buried alive.”
No Staying alive. Ain’t happening.
Ser Slinom is on borrowed time as well. I believe.
Tabitha wishes to speak to Slimy.
To offer the olive branch of peace?
Or the arrows of war?
If peace, will Slimy accept?
It occurs to me that the Empire.doesn’t actually need to destroy the bunker. All its troops need to
do is sufficiently damage the entrances and exits to ensure nobody could possibly escape – and
let nature take its course. They have to run out air or provisions eventually. “What a shame. Dear
Leader is trapped underground and the experts tell us we cannot dig him out in time.”
Could be.
But I was thinking along the lines of waaaaay back when the gravity drive was invented,
the scientists weren’t quite sure of what they had, and they accidentally put the gravity
engine into positive feedback overdrive……and made a laaaarge crater.
I’m not going to look for the strip, and I may be wrong.
If I am, I’m sure PC and Krew will correct me.
But it’s fun to imagine.
A “gravity bomb” is untested and to be honest, no better than a nuke.
It could rip all the buildings in the town to shreds or yank then off their
foundations in a microsecond before it goes poof, and the crater left by
the test was only 80 feet, not 600. a true “god-rod” would leave too much
deviation to the town, they would want a surgical strike.
The higher the velocity and the narrower the diameter of the impactor, the better the
penetration and the lower the collateral surface damage.
Damage underground, however, is another matter. That’s why certain weapons in
World War 2 were called, “Earthquake Bombs”…
That’s what I mean, the “god-rod” concept was the size of a telephone pole.
a kinetic missile (no explosives) with a grav drive could drive in deep enough
to collapse a bunker and do little damage to the surrounding area.
it has to be robust enough to not disintegrate on hitting
the atmosphere and probably needs to be stabilized in
a way.
(Think of a length of wire instead of a telephone pole,
you wouldn’t expect that to ram through hundreds of
feet of rock and concrete, would you?
The stabilizing might be relatively easy for a grav missile
since it’s pulled towards it’s target instead of being pushed
by a rear-mounted rocket.)
That’s pretty much what they did to the leaders in http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-032/
A few rocks dropped from orbit will no doubt crater the building,
but the splash effect will drive mass up and down for hundreds
of feet. I kinda doubt the Empire will just throw meteors however,
too great a risk to the entire town. They don’t want to risk the
entire town, the the a-holes running it. A few missiles from orbit
will do very nicely and make a very clear message.
As I seem to remember, they stated the mansion is more or less, a fortification.
Drop a Kinetic Kill device through the roof, and you should contain most of the
blast…
Where’s Mike Holmes when you need him?
“I assure you, Captain, that we are perfectly safe.”
“Our engineers assure me . . .”
“I don’t have time for Chicken Little panic, Captain. Good bye!”
Not so famous last words, but last words, nonetheless.
Hubris…..
Does anyone here have habits that they picked up in the military or other job?
I’ll start:
1) I haven’t thrown a cigarette butt on the ground since a Sergeant Major saw me
throw one on -HIS- grass. In 1975.
Some lessons become a scar on your soul.
2) I realized this morning that I still start my car with the door open, seat belt off,
and my feet on the ground. Because of terrorists targeting GI cars for bombs in the
1980’s. Same reason I back into parking spaces when I can. I’m never in a hurry to
arrive, but I might be in a tearing hurry to leave.
Anyone else?
Not so much on a job, and I was never in the military, but I almost always back in to parking spaces.
Backing in is usually pretty easy, and allows easier egress. Backing out if somebody parks a big truck
next to you blocking your view, or there is busy parking lot traffic, is more difficult.
Not like that – but there’s some buzzword phrases
I picked up from certain people at work which I
tend to use mockingly to indicate sarcasm.
1: Counting, I spent time as a stacker at the end of a assembly line, the habit stuck.
2: After dealing with downtown Gary, IN in the ’70s, I became VERY careful about
watching for shadows and odd noises at night, still give corners of building a wide
pass, too many mugging attempts.
3: Knee-jerk reaction to a fire siren, once a fireman, always one.
Just a few.
1. Just because the breaker is open does not mean the
circuit is de-energized, verify it is dead before sticking your
dickskinners in there.
2. Plan for worst case scenario and you’ll be prepared when it’s
not that bad.
There’s an estimation by Newton himself about how
deep an impactor will reach:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_depth
The densest materials we know of are tungsten, uranium
or gold; about 8 times as dense as concrete.
So if the projectile is like 25 meters long it would penetrate 600ft of
concrete or similar dense matter. (Probably more than enough
to reach down there, since only 140ft are concrete, the rest is
probably mostly rock)
You should add a ft or two for passing through the atmosphere
by the way.
On the other hand, the thingy doesn’t have to actually hit them
directly.
The shock wave of a large impact is powerful enough
to change mineral composition.
And let’s not forget: for those down there, surviving
the impact is not enough. Eventually they’d have to get
out of there, don’t they?
I’m pretty sure the “staircase” will be destroyed long
before the bunker itself is.
‘long before’ being some small fraction of a second? 😛
More like “even if the other is not”. 😉
The Empire has long dealt with wanna-be gods in this manner,
let them THINK they are safe and seal them in, no escape. I
love it! Clearly Capt Mike will wash his hands and move on.
These dim bulbs have no idea what a meteor strike is like at
ground zero.
Ah Slimy, keep poking those lions and ignore the open cage door.
Very soon P’tero will rival any fleet of the core and then some!
I can’t wait until Friday to see what Taritha is up to or going to
say to the blustering fool, seeing how she and Ann’gijn are those
lions!
Please tell me that Tabitha is not going to go off the rails –
into areas or ideas that Teresa would not like to see happen . . . .
A) It’s Taritha. Tabitha is a different character.
B) Okay, she’s not going to go off the rails.
A) Oops – ferschluggin’ typo . . Yes, Taritha, a former gypsy kitty.
I am glad her crew is with her.
B) That is sorta like the injured guy who said, “Call me an ambulance.”
And the beatnik said – “OK, man. You are an ambulance.”
– – – sorry, Sam, I just couldn’t resist. . . . . 😀
Maybe I should have.
Then again – the Cat who knows, has not said. . . .
but who knows what the Cat will do.
– – – – –
I was 35 years in various aspects of military, but never backed in a vehicle.
Well, OK, perhaps a few helicopters, but never an airplane.
We had to drive into forwards to the painted parking spot – or go around and try again.
Wait – you are right – we pulled the planes into the revetments tail first. . . .
😀
FWIW – Grocery store backer-inners are quite dangerous, IMHO.
Never understood people backing into parking spaces. Backing out is far
easier than backing in and driving in is enormously easier than backing in.
I love watching some dipshit taking 5 minutes and 4 tries to back into a
parking space he could’ve driven into in under 30 seconds. Plus if it’s angle
parking he ends up pointed the wrong direction!
It is inherently safer. The parking space is somewhat of a controlled area, no morons whizzing by and (usually) no brain dead pedestrians in the parking slot. But it’s not for angles.
for work I drive an F350 with full crew cab and an 8 foot bed. About half the time I’m pulling a trailer too. That takes two angled slots, so I’m almost always aimed the wrong direction, but I stay in the far reaches of the lot.
Okay, I’m going to modify my earlier statement regarding backing into parking spaces.
It depends.
At work, I usually back in, but it’s because the parking spots are so narrow, that I’ll usually
go passenger door to passenger door, allowing me to park 6″ away on the right side and
have room to actually open my driver’s side door.
Also, if I’m not alone in the vehicle, I’ll probably go nose in, but in a space that allows doors
to open on both sides. Preferable is two parking spaces nose to nose. Then I’ll pull through
so I can simply pull out forwards when leaving.
I had to quit doing that after my neck fusion, can’t turn it enough
to look behind me. Between the back and neck I have very little flexing
between neck to nads heh…
I used to drive a GMC 2500 4X4 try pulling that in, in either direction,
damn parking spots are almost always too small. I still have it, but after
letting a buddy of my son work on it, it barely runs. The shop I took it to
spent more time fixing his screw-ups than anything, even the brain had
to be factory reset. That and it gets only 12 mph…
This has been all an act to trick SS crew into getting the wrong
ideas about the Pride and the Empire, Taritha is just going to
stir the pot a bit more. Offer the olive branch in peace, and when
he tries to throw it back, slap him/her/it in the face with it!
Or just be the one holding the stick with a carrot, appeal to
their greed privately.
I have been assuming the Hammerheads are predators, too, from the name.
But it does begin to appear that Ser Slinom has more in common with a
gastropod than a shark, and it’s just the shape of the skull resulting from the
wide-set eyes replacing actual eye-stalks that gives them the nickname. And
yes, I think it’s a nickname like Shitbat, not the name they call themselves by.
But we’ll see.
Detestible as the racists now running the CSA are, and vile as their treatment
of the Catian pilot was, let’s not forget the Empire is on questionable ground
here. She was participating in a war between foreign nations, granted in a
support role rather than a combat one, and apparently with Imperial sanction
or possibly under Imperial orders. And I’ll grant simply capturing or killing her
would have been way different from what they did. This would be like a civilian
medic in war being killed or captured by the enemy.
Upsetting but unlikely to raise public furor — they knew the risks. However,
mounting their head as a trophy and making a spectacle of their mutilated body —
that might start a public outcry for a military response.
Sorry, Jochi, but I had to edit your comment. We are NOT going there!
I seen it, I don’t blame you PC, I still feel bad
for triggering the last one.
The only involvement the Empire has in this is to allow its
personnel to take unpaid leave to assist Waukenda, and to
lease equipment. Same as the Cactus Air Force.
Except for Larissa, her mission is with Imp Intel.
Waukendan Command is calling the shots on this mission.
They are highly pissed.
The pilot was flying a medivac, CSA shot down an
airborn ambulance…
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-1013/
They deserve everything that is coming for them.
No sweat. I intended to add feel free to edit this and I forgot.
Sorry.