I’m not so sure. I’ve seen her bodyguards produce blades out of clothing that were too long to have fit anywhere and stayed hidden, I’d have sworn. So, their skill exceeds my discernment or there’s hammerspace involved.
General Patton, “IT’S NOT YOUR JOB TO DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY. IT’S YOUR JOB TO MAKE THE OTHER POOR BASTARD DIE FOR HIS COUNTRY!”
Well, Putrid Princess, are YOU prepared to die for your country?
I have to quibble slightly with you on the Patton quote. I found.several slightly divergent forms, all with the same basic meaning. The one I believe was used in the film was
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
There is another slightly version which elucidates the principle well,
“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.”
I have always considered Japanese culture to partake of elements of a death cult. The way that underlings were expected to be willing to die for their “master”. The way their answer to so many issues was seppuku. Indeed the prevalence of suicide in Japanese culture. The fact that, until the Meiji reforms every crime – no matter how minor – was a capital crime. As much as I appreciate and respect the Japanese as a people I have to say that I think that their culture smacks of a death cult.
heh just about every “cult-ure” was a death cult.! till christianity came along an made suicide bad.. and since the Japanese forbade any religion conversion (and isolated them selves) christianity never got a foothold…
Patton probably said it more than once and in various ways. The speech that begins the George C. Scott movie is a condensation of many speeches Patton gave when he was preparing the 3rd Army to enter combat in Normandy. The theme of all these speeches was the same, but each one was a little different, tailored to the audience, the situation, and how Patton felt that day. Most versions of that quote included profanity. Patton could express himself well without profanity, but considered the judicious use of it as a way to add emphasis and express himself better.
In light of the truth of Patton’s maxim, I never understood switching from 7.62X51/.308 Win to 5.56X45/.223. Way I understood it the idea was to wound a 170lb man and thereby (temporarily) take 4 men off the battle field – the wounded guy, 2 guys to carry him and the combat medic to care for him. And that didn’t take into account hajis who didn’t bother carrying their wounded off the field. Besides it always looked to me like sooner or later you were gonna get all four back on the battle field as opposed to taking one guy out permanently (i.e. making some other dumb bastard die gloriously for HIS country) It is my understanding that the percentage of enemy combatants KIA who return to the battle field approaches zero. 😉
switching,, this was after Korea. and the US. was becoming lazy,. they did not want to carry all that heavy ammo an weapon.. since at that time most (if not all ) communists were going to the AK. ((” whine ” why do they get to carry the light weapon an we have to carry this heavy thing..?)) AND most of the US. populace was going to the peaceful (make love not war.) side.. (wound not kill)
then there is the kicker.. they get a rifle system (AR-15) almost free.. when Stoner could not sell the rifle (AR-10) to the government , he sold it to Armalite.. the government then said make it smaller (AR-10 = .308) make it cost less, (m-16 was was about $100 less then the m-14..) ,, an then ,, since it was a US. exclusive cartridge,. the commies could not use surplus ammo like they did with the other weapons… (not)
The vast majority of casualties inflicted by American forces in WWII and the Korean War were from artillery, bombing, and machine guns, rather than from individual riflemen. Thousands of rounds were fired for every enemy troop hit, because most of the rifle fire was suppressive rather than aimed. If you’re shooting mainly to interfere with the enemy’s aim while the platoon or company commander gets on the radio to bring down hell on them, lots of little rounds is better than fewer big, deadly rounds. IIRC, when the M16 was introduced they claimed that an M16 with 1600 rounds weighed the same as an M14 with 600 rounds. That allows a lot more suppressive fire before someone has to somehow haul more ammo to the front lines.
Also, the M16 could shoot as far as a typical rifleman could aim over iron sights, and at close ranges the little 5.56 bullet that tumbled and broke in half in the body should have done as much damage as a 7.62 bullet. At long ranges, in theory you can wait a few seconds longer for the poor bastard to bleed out, so it didn’t matter too much how big the hole was – especially when you could make more little holes with that extra 1000 rounds and a recoil so light you should be able to hold your aim for the next shot. (I went into the Air Force with a little experience with 30+ caliber deer rifles and 12 gauge shotguns, so I knew what recoil felt like. In the only time the Air Force let us use real 5.56mm ammo on the firing range, I could feel the bolt carrier moving back and forth in the M16 after firing, but not the recoil at the moment I fired. If holes hadn’t appeared in the paper, I’d have wondered if they’d issued blanks.)
“How are you going to explain this incident to your father?”
Ummm…….I’d be willing to bet a Dragon to a doughnut that Miral is wearing a head cam, and live streaming it back to where Daddy Dearest is watching it.
Oops!
You may be right, maybe not watching but it’s being recorded so he can be shown it later. And maybe not Miral, Brian is Security and may have to wear the equivalent of a body cam, or there may be covert protective eyes watching a foreign diplomat’s br… offspring.
Catman.
1) Check your email for update on Miral figure. You aren’t going to like my conclusion but fecal material occurs, does it not?
2) Tell me what model etc. camera you have and as a consolation prize I’ll see if I can find a grip for it. I did a quick search for “camera grip” on one free CAD site and got a shedload of hits.
Oh yes… I love how Wildcat is handling the uppity bigot…
And panels 7 and 8? My, what an interesting bodysuit one of Teresa’s bodyguards is now wearing…
It is quite clear that she’s not carrying any spare magazines, isn’t it?
Unless they are tucked in her boots, I suppose.
I’m not so sure. I’ve seen her bodyguards produce blades out of clothing that were too long to have fit anywhere and stayed hidden, I’d have sworn. So, their skill exceeds my discernment or there’s hammerspace involved.
Yup. Remember when Mala was passing through Customs. Impressive amount of miscellaneous hardware she could put on the table 😀
Highlanders?
General Patton, “IT’S NOT YOUR JOB TO DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY. IT’S YOUR JOB TO MAKE THE OTHER POOR BASTARD DIE FOR HIS COUNTRY!”
Well, Putrid Princess, are YOU prepared to die for your country?
I have to quibble slightly with you on the Patton quote. I found.several slightly divergent forms, all with the same basic meaning. The one I believe was used in the film was
There is another slightly version which elucidates the principle well,
I have always considered Japanese culture to partake of elements of a death cult. The way that underlings were expected to be willing to die for their “master”. The way their answer to so many issues was seppuku. Indeed the prevalence of suicide in Japanese culture. The fact that, until the Meiji reforms every crime – no matter how minor – was a capital crime. As much as I appreciate and respect the Japanese as a people I have to say that I think that their culture smacks of a death cult.
heh just about every “cult-ure” was a death cult.! till christianity came along an made suicide bad.. and since the Japanese forbade any religion conversion (and isolated them selves) christianity never got a foothold…
Bill,
Thanks for the correction.
I just pulled that out of my head (or other bodily orifice) and didn’t stop to research first.
Patton probably said it more than once and in various ways. The speech that begins the George C. Scott movie is a condensation of many speeches Patton gave when he was preparing the 3rd Army to enter combat in Normandy. The theme of all these speeches was the same, but each one was a little different, tailored to the audience, the situation, and how Patton felt that day. Most versions of that quote included profanity. Patton could express himself well without profanity, but considered the judicious use of it as a way to add emphasis and express himself better.
In light of the truth of Patton’s maxim, I never understood switching from 7.62X51/.308 Win to 5.56X45/.223. Way I understood it the idea was to wound a 170lb man and thereby (temporarily) take 4 men off the battle field – the wounded guy, 2 guys to carry him and the combat medic to care for him. And that didn’t take into account hajis who didn’t bother carrying their wounded off the field. Besides it always looked to me like sooner or later you were gonna get all four back on the battle field as opposed to taking one guy out permanently (i.e. making some other dumb bastard die gloriously for HIS country) It is my understanding that the percentage of enemy combatants KIA who return to the battle field approaches zero. 😉
switching,, this was after Korea. and the US. was becoming lazy,. they did not want to carry all that heavy ammo an weapon.. since at that time most (if not all ) communists were going to the AK. ((” whine ” why do they get to carry the light weapon an we have to carry this heavy thing..?)) AND most of the US. populace was going to the peaceful (make love not war.) side.. (wound not kill)
then there is the kicker.. they get a rifle system (AR-15) almost free.. when Stoner could not sell the rifle (AR-10) to the government , he sold it to Armalite.. the government then said make it smaller (AR-10 = .308) make it cost less, (m-16 was was about $100 less then the m-14..) ,, an then ,, since it was a US. exclusive cartridge,. the commies could not use surplus ammo like they did with the other weapons… (not)
The vast majority of casualties inflicted by American forces in WWII and the Korean War were from artillery, bombing, and machine guns, rather than from individual riflemen. Thousands of rounds were fired for every enemy troop hit, because most of the rifle fire was suppressive rather than aimed. If you’re shooting mainly to interfere with the enemy’s aim while the platoon or company commander gets on the radio to bring down hell on them, lots of little rounds is better than fewer big, deadly rounds. IIRC, when the M16 was introduced they claimed that an M16 with 1600 rounds weighed the same as an M14 with 600 rounds. That allows a lot more suppressive fire before someone has to somehow haul more ammo to the front lines.
Also, the M16 could shoot as far as a typical rifleman could aim over iron sights, and at close ranges the little 5.56 bullet that tumbled and broke in half in the body should have done as much damage as a 7.62 bullet. At long ranges, in theory you can wait a few seconds longer for the poor bastard to bleed out, so it didn’t matter too much how big the hole was – especially when you could make more little holes with that extra 1000 rounds and a recoil so light you should be able to hold your aim for the next shot. (I went into the Air Force with a little experience with 30+ caliber deer rifles and 12 gauge shotguns, so I knew what recoil felt like. In the only time the Air Force let us use real 5.56mm ammo on the firing range, I could feel the bolt carrier moving back and forth in the M16 after firing, but not the recoil at the moment I fired. If holes hadn’t appeared in the paper, I’d have wondered if they’d issued blanks.)
“How are you going to explain this incident to your father?”
Ummm…….I’d be willing to bet a Dragon to a doughnut that Miral is wearing a head cam, and live streaming it back to where Daddy Dearest is watching it.
Oops!
You may be right, maybe not watching but it’s being recorded so he can be shown it later. And maybe not Miral, Brian is Security and may have to wear the equivalent of a body cam, or there may be covert protective eyes watching a foreign diplomat’s br… offspring.
Catman.
1) Check your email for update on Miral figure. You aren’t going to like my conclusion but fecal material occurs, does it not?
2) Tell me what model etc. camera you have and as a consolation prize I’ll see if I can find a grip for it. I did a quick search for “camera grip” on one free CAD site and got a shedload of hits.