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So, which side will they take?
The safe side or the suicide?Lt. Connie & ltjg Doug are ONI (office of navy intelligence) ,, connie intro was TGW-613
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TGW-1227

Chapter: Ride for Life
Characters: Admiral ariste, clarissa, Estille, Jonathan, Ladan, lt connie, lt doug, lyn, mavia, Minka, Nat, sheriff
Location: roads, station meeting room
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  1. Scarsdale
    March 18, 2024, 21:31 | # | Reply

    Well, the cops don’t seem like they want to be aggressors, but that can
    change quickly. And I’m sure Minka can change minds, or at least spray
    them around a bit!

    I’m sure the core has figured out by now the Empire has no problem with
    getting ships built, aside from the control boards, it’s getting manpower
    up to regs. Attacking Catia first off would be a huge mistake, but they have
    made some very bad choices in the past so we can’t rule that out. If they
    can force themselves to admit that the Empire is vastly superior to them
    in ship capabilities, they seem to think their FTL will be enough… In getting
    to the target(s), yes. In fighting? Not so much. Not when a well-placed missile
    into the bridge could wipe out the crew and leave most of the ship intact.
    Plus their crew aren’t as well trained as the Empire’s and their moral is poor
    do to the behavure of the command structure. Constantly brow-beating your
    crew makes them want to mutiny!

    • Chryzopraz
      March 19, 2024, 04:54 | # | Reply

      We don’t know much of their capabilities. A number of rocks released
      with near light-speed with high precision can essentially evaporate
      each and every ship The Empire has around Catia.
      The core would need to send a FTL probe with FTL communication
      to guide the “missiles”, but that’s it.
      Instant victory.

    • Jochi
      March 19, 2024, 11:03 | # | Reply

      I have to point out, from their PoV they aren’t aggressors, they’re
      defenders. And that’s true whether they have elected to welcome and
      escort these invaders as liberators or not. They appear to be taking
      their role as defenders of the territory they protect and the citizens
      in it behind them seriously. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt
      for now, whether they oppose this annexation or not. Time was Teresa
      said “The vote will be held this afternoon, and the Empire will abide
      by the decision of the people here…” I guess those days are gone.
      This feels more like when Nepal was conquering Bangladesh. I hope
      it’s more peaceful and the locals see it as to their advantage,
      not that they have no choice but to submit, flee or die.

      • Scarsdale
        March 19, 2024, 13:18 | # | Reply

        The core doesn’t have the tech nor the idea of that, that’s
        strictly something the grav drives can do. The core usually
        shows up and starts shooting, expecting their overwhelming
        might to scare the defenders to panic. They are bullies, not
        experienced combat specialists.

      • Petercat
        March 20, 2024, 09:03 | # | Reply

        Submit, flee or die? Did you not read my response
        to Bill in TGW-1226?
        “Anyone who will not accept the responsibilities,
        duties and freedoms of Imperial citizenship will
        not be forced to accept citizenship, but they will
        be held to the law within the Empire,and will have
        to pay the sales tax.”
        What’s the problem with expecting everyone to obey
        the law, especially since it amounts to “Do what
        you want, but don’t harm anyone else”?

        • Jochi
          March 20, 2024, 10:13 | # | Reply

          No, I didn’t see that, and I’ll have to think about it.
          I just know the culture of the people of (one-time)
          southern Missouri, where this is taking place,
          which honestly isn’t that different from that of the
          whole swath from North Texas hills to West Virginia.
          Main difference is they take “Show Me” to heart.

          • Petercat
            March 20, 2024, 10:16 | # | Reply

            When I was living overseas, even as a non-citizen,
            I had to obey local laws or accept the consequences.

            • Jochi
              March 20, 2024, 18:00 | # | Reply

              Sure, and if the locals were treated to a regime change without their consent,
              you’d have had a new set of laws to obey or go home. THEIR options would
              be to accept the regime change, fight it, leave, or, I guess under the Empire’s
              rules, become a non-citizen like you and subject to the same options. I’m not
              arguing against the Empire’s rules, by and large I like them, but we don’t know
              yet how happy the locals are under the current regime. We DO know with
              the Empire providing a majority of broadcast news and entertainment, that
              the Empire’s projection of itself is known to them if the existing regime isn’t
              blocking it. Whether they believe it or not is another matter.

  2. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
    March 18, 2024, 22:53 | # | Reply

    “….and let me talk to them.”
    At how many rounds per second?
    I hope she can control that trigger for short bursts
    instead of one continuous drum emptying spray-and-pray.

    • rob stanley
      March 19, 2024, 09:11 | # | Reply

      depending on the time made and aircraft vs infantry model..
      early select trigger, 600 – 1000 rpm, or 10 – 16 rps
      later infantry models, were set to 800 – 900, or 13 – 15 rps
      reworked ‘aircraft’ models 1700rpm or 28 rps.
      so.. i’ll say , 15 rounds per second..
      also, 50r drum = 21 second burst..

  3. Bill Mullins
    March 19, 2024, 07:21 | # | Reply

    Since the guys manning the roadblock know the crew from Jericho
    is coming, would the roadblock be an aggression? Or would it be
    more like the Minbari approaching with gunports open?
    As for the Core’s naval tactics I expect them to have a mix of
    capital ships and smaller vessels. Regarding Chryzopraz’
    suggestion, the problem would be to accelerate the rocks. For
    Empire ships that would be a trivial task – just attach a grav
    drive unit. If the only way you have to accelerate a mass is
    via Newton’s 3rd law then the problem becomes vastly more
    difficult. I figure they will show up with such a large fleet
    that they’ll expect any “rational” op for to just roll over.
    Either way it’s gonna be interesting.

    • Chryzopraz
      March 19, 2024, 08:25 | # | Reply

      I thought the FTL drive might be able to accelerate the rocks much
      easier than normal way.
      I mean, a ship gets a rock in a bay, goes FTL, then drops to relative,
      but near light speed and releases the rock.
      Of course much depends on how FTL works here. Attaching a FTL
      drive to a rock and then dropping out of FTL in the same space
      the enemy ship occupies might work too.
      I don’t expect the core to be able to do that or the
      war would be short and catastrophic to our Empire.

      • Scarsdale
        March 19, 2024, 13:30 | # | Reply

        The actual draw-back of that idea is the more mass a ship
        has, the more fuel it would take, to carry the mass of a rock
        into FTL might be too much. Plus they are bullies, tactics
        aren’t their strong point, just scare and overwhelming force.

      • Bill Mullins
        March 19, 2024, 15:28 | # | Reply

        I’ve never seen an FTL scheme where the FTL velocity translated to
        anything in “real” space. The Catman has a dodge that the Empire
        stumbled upon a way to “concentrate” gravity but even that has its
        limitations. It certainly does not confer any way to exceed lightspeed.
        Even such far out things as Alcubierre’s “warp drive” don’t have the
        vehicle going superluminal, merely effectively doing so. Now, I did
        see one author who, while not allowing an Alcubierre warp drive to
        go superluminal (something about heat buildup in the warp bubble
        kept them to 0.5C or so), did allow as to an object effectively going
        at 0.5C would make a hellova dent if it hit something. If the Core
        FTL tech can be miniaturized I could see it being used to slam
        projectiles into a target while in FTL. That might work.
        Let’s hope they cannot do that, shall we?

      • Dreamfox
        March 19, 2024, 18:10 | # | Reply

        Careful here. We have no idea how the FTL drive actually works in
        this universe and there are a lot of possibilities.
        Right now we can make some assumptions about some things, but
        when it comes to the FTL drive, we know nothing about it beyond
        the fact that it exists.

    • Scarsdale
      March 19, 2024, 13:41 | # | Reply

      I’m hoping the road block is because of raider trouble and to
      “feel out” the group, the whole “don’t start any trouble” idea.
      I’m sure reasonable people would welcome them, but we have
      no idea what the expectations of their old “government” is.
      The offer of aid that they have coming should have some
      weight, and I have a hunch they have seen the broadcasts
      on their TV’s by now.

      • Bill Mullins
        March 19, 2024, 15:37 | # | Reply

        I guess we have to wait until the next installment to find out.
        My hunch is that the road block is to keep the folks from Jericho
        from spilling the beans about the Empire to the folks in that
        group’s zone of control. Warlords tend not to be too terribly
        willing to give up power peacefully. The fact that the roadblock
        includes troops hidden in the bushes indicates some level of
        possible malevolence. Of course I’d be tickled if Minka doesn’t
        have to “say anything” with that thing in front of her.

        • Scarsdale
          March 19, 2024, 22:32 | # | Reply

          I would agree with you Bill, but we just don’t know anything. And we know
          PC loves to throw curve balls at us at the last second! I doubt they sent
          anyone to Jerico to see if the broadcasts are anything but fiction, mainly
          because anyone that was to visit most likely want to stay. As far as the men
          in hiding go, for good or bad, it’s a sound tactic if you don’t know the people
          that’s crossing your borders.

  4. Sleel
    March 19, 2024, 18:42 | # | Reply

    Quite frankly. I’m hoping they get lit up. What the fuck gives them
    the right to go around annexing ppl and expecting nothing but love
    and kisses? Their self declared superior attitude? They have exactly
    as much right to go around annexing ppl and expecting nothing but
    love and cookies as mordor does sending their orcs into Ukraine.

    And them acting like they have the right to just annex whoever the
    fuck they want is putting them in the same league, and lvl,
    as putler and his war criminals.

    • Scarsdale
      March 19, 2024, 22:12 | # | Reply

      Except that once the Empire teaches them the laws (the few there are)
      and helps out those in need, they will pretty much leave them alone,
      can you say the same for the warlords and the minions? Annexing can
      sound like “taking over” in your context, in another it’s moving into a
      besieged region that’s neither law-abiding or safe for it’s inhabitants,
      being in food, clothes, medial aid, smart law-givers, and security. Sure,
      it doesn’t sound any better than they might of had before, until they
      see it IS better. Not one person has expected any Imperial representative
      to act without greed or demands, but get compassion and the promise
      of a better life, something no one else has done before OR after the fall.

    • Sam
      March 20, 2024, 01:44 | # | Reply

      Wow! You HOPE they get lit up? Only Imperial Storm Troopers miss most
      of the time. They come around that corner, and get lit up in line with your
      desires, one or more of the empire people is gonna get killed. Remember,
      the empire doesn’t start fights, they end them. First and foremost, these
      are friends out on a leisurely motorcycle ride. One with a heavy (hidden)
      retaliatory fist, but it is a retaliatory fist. It doesn’t show unless attacked
      first.

    • Petercat
      March 20, 2024, 08:54 | # | Reply

      Did you miss my entire response to Bill in TGW-1226?
      Especially the part about “Most citizens have no contact
      with the Imperial government at all, other than the sales
      tax or military service.”
      Yeah, they’re bringing peace and stability to the northern
      regions, but the people there will have an equal stature
      with everyone else in the Empire.

  5. Gary (Kajm at DA)
    March 20, 2024, 03:29 | # | Reply

    ‘The safe side or the suicide.’

    I just learned what my wife’s god-mother really believes
    ‘what is going on’ with Trump and the US.

    1984 FUCKING WINS.

    Do I try to keep writing…
    or do I make sure we have the best garden we can manage,
    among other things, while the world goes to Fucking Hell
    around us. No one will either want, or be allowed to,
    read anything I came up with.

    • Scarsdale
      March 20, 2024, 14:53 | # | Reply

      Heh, my mother was so much into soap operas that she bought
      3 VCRs and 2 TVs, one to record the shows, and two to edit out the
      commercials so she can watch uninterrupted. Plus she was one of
      the many that wrote hate mail to a certain character on “General
      Hospital” that caused the switch the actor from one of the bad guys
      to good so she wouldn’t get assassinated in the mid – 80s!
      So I can relate, it’s just modern-day propaganda, sad really…

  6. Dastardly Dan
    March 20, 2024, 06:34 | # | Reply

    Has Top Webcomics been abandoned?
    Did I miss the memo?

    • Bill Mullins
      March 20, 2024, 07:35 | # | Reply

      No so far as I know. I just cast my votes
      (one anonymous, one logged in)
      and everything looked normal there.
      Why do you ask?

      • Jochi
        March 20, 2024, 10:20 | # | Reply

        Position #6 this morning —
        but as far from #5 as from #11.
        2 votes so far…

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