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TGW-1005

Chapter: Faith and Future
Characters: Captain Gur'yan, Drill Sgt Markham, ka (f), po (m), Sunny, Taritha
Location: boot camp, Ptero
└ Tags: a misdirection, mates

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  1. Scarsdale
    October 13, 2022, 01:19 | # | Reply

    Ah ha! I knew something was up since he backed down so fast.
    I don’t think he’s up to no good, just has a reason to talk to Sunny.
    Possibly what I mentioned about the Dragonflies being an ideal recon
    and deep infiltration? Any real-life marine would love to have that
    in the field! Capt Chardis didn’t mind much that Spirit had popped
    over to the pirate ships to check them out.
    I hope Jonas and Sunny won’t mind being in recon.

    Glad to see Ka and Po are curious about Taritha and her people,
    clearly the P’tero are reasonable folk and only want to know who
    and what about new people. I’m sure the Empire will come up as
    well.

  2. me
    October 13, 2022, 05:58 | # | Reply

    … with this opening the first promise she’ll
    give him, should be that she’ll end him if he
    ever tries to exploit her morals –
    just to be sure.

  3. Scarsdale
    October 13, 2022, 09:49 | # | Reply

    Sgt Markham is thinking what I suspect he is he best kick up
    the line if not try to contact Teresa and Kathy directly. I doubt
    the Dragons would care but the Dragonflies are very picky
    about who they talk to much less bond with. A lot depends
    on how he knows of them since they do try very hard to stay
    out of the public eye.
    Other than the universal morals about murder and theft morals
    are largely topographical, the age of consent in the USA is 18
    but in Japan it’s 14, legal drinking age in the USA is state by state
    but in many countries it doesn’t exist. I could go on but I’d rather
    not there’s just too much to cover between the social, religious,
    and legal morals of each areas.

    • rob stanley
      October 13, 2022, 10:13 | # | Reply

      age of consent is 16.. (34 states)
      AND varies state to state.
      IE: cally is 18, unless they are
      same age, then it’s 14..

      • me
        October 13, 2022, 12:44 | # | Reply

        A very complex issue, that one.

        In most European countries it’s somewhere between 14 and 16
        but the age of the older partner is also to take into consideration.

        Basically, a consenting act between two 15 year olds is probably
        legally acceptable.

        Side note: legally growing up is treated like a process in Germany.
        At seven your old enough to buy “small things” with your own money,
        At fourteen your considered old enough
        to commit criminal acts willfully.
        At sixteen your old enough to drink beer or other “weak” alcohol.
        And in some regions you’re old enough to vote in local elections.
        You need to be seventeen for your driver license (provisioned you
        drive under supervision of your parents)
        At eighteen you’re considered an adult in most ways: drink what
        you want, smoke, vote, drive without supervision, run for most
        elections, choose your own way of life and place living …
        (Criminal courts will take your age and your “maturity” into
        consideration when deciding the punishment for a while longer)

        • Scarsdale
          October 13, 2022, 13:53 | # | Reply

          it changes often too on many fronts Like in ’82 When i met my wife
          she was only 17 and I couldn’t touch her age of consent was 18 in
          Indiana but where she was from in Kentucky it was 16 so she
          thought since I didn’t react to her advances I had to be gay or
          something HEHEH… No I just didn’t want to risk a rape charge!
          I started to write to her almost 2 years later while I was recovering
          from my car accident that we got together.

          • me
            October 14, 2022, 02:54 | # | Reply

            There’s a web comic somewhere which gets a lot of drama out of the
            protagonist sleeping with a seventeen year old girl (he’s 18 or 19)
            and only then learning her age.

            He’s shocked “what have I done!!”, wants to keep the relationship
            going but keep things non-sexual, eventually they break up and
            drama drama drama.

            Some 500 pages later, after the turned 18 and they reconnected
            they find out that she’s been “legal” all along, since they
            only had assumed “eighteen or jail” and never bothered to check.

            • Scarsdale
              October 14, 2022, 10:53 | # | Reply

              I was 22 at the time and she was related to my sister’s first husband
              so it was dicey. Plus my elder sister and her husband tried to “help”
              a similar couple and spent 6 months in jail for adding and abiding.
              I felt like I had a target painted on my back. I hadn’t dated much
              since that other girl I mentioned died, so my father just just looked
              at me after I had recovered from accident and said
              “would you just write her!” so I did.

              • me
                October 14, 2022, 12:05 | # | Reply

                What I read about laws and how they’re executed concerning sexual
                relationships in the US is pretty disturbing.
                (I still can remember how being a hormone addled teenager felt)

                Granted, maybe that’s just the filtering – news about the lives
                of teenagers must be extreme to make it across the pond.

                For example there’s supposed to be a case where a 17 year old boy
                was sexting his girlfriend (around the same age), the policy – for
                whatever reason – apprehended their phones and found his pictures.

                He was found guilty for spreading porn of a minor (himself)
                and punished as an adult (because he was “almost 18”).

                So now he’s probably a registered sex offender?

                Over here the police would have to have a real good reason
                to search anybody’s phone. And if it’s a minor they’d
                have to involve the parents, too.

                And even if they did find those pics they’d
                probably just lecture him about being stupid.

                • rob stanley
                  October 14, 2022, 17:21 | # | Reply

                  https://reason.com/2016/09/13/romeo-and-juliet-and-sexting-17-year-old/
                  it was another case of “Law enforcement” lying.. or why not to, let
                  them – without lawyer / warrant!
                  in the US, most cases are , a parent (usually her father) involves
                  the law,, because threatening bodily harm, just drives em closer..
                  and makes “daddy” look bad,. ware as the law can keep em apart,
                  and make the kids life Hell.!

  4. Bill Mullins
    October 13, 2022, 12:34 | # | Reply

    Before the fictional scifi Locust Transporter PC is fond of there
    was a real world transport aircraft built on the same principle.
    It was called the Fairchild XC120 Packplane.
    Here is a YouTube video about it:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H1GFsYGRjFg

    • Scarsdale
      October 13, 2022, 13:58 | # | Reply

      I’ve watched that video before some were
      pretty wild while others were just silly.

    • Scarsdale
      October 13, 2022, 16:14 | # | Reply

      Ah my mistake I mistook this as a list not just about the Packplane
      The one I watched also included the pidgin-piloted missiles. It seemed
      to work but I could see the problems in later years with the animal
      activists.
      I can see why there would stability issues, dropping off the cargo
      would completely change the plane’s aerodynamics, it wouldn’t
      be able to takeoff and land in bad weather as well.

      • Bill Mullins
        October 13, 2022, 18:43 | # | Reply

        I read a book decades ago about allied “secret weapons” and it included a part about the
        U.S. made “smart missiles” steered by pigeons. According to the chapter, the pigeons
        were trained to peck at certain types of images. The target was projected on a screen with
        wires embedded (a VERY early touch screen) in it and wired such that if the image was off
        center the pigeon’s pecking would be translated to corrections.applied to the device’s
        steering vanes. Supposedly it was VERY accurate. Unfortunately, IMS, the idea was nixed
        on “humanitarian” grounds. Plus it might have presented a logistics challenge. But still it
        shows that folks on the allied side were.capable of out-of-the-box thinking. The book was
        one of a two book set. One covered German secret weapons; the other was about
        Allied “wonder weapons”. I remember one the Germans built which was a sonic cannon.
        Essentially it was a pulse jet engine such as would be on a V-1 buzz bomb mounted at
        the focal point of a huge parabolic reflector. IMS the thing produced pressure waves
        measured in BARS and could kill at a quarter mile. Ultimately it was never fielded.
        You guys who actually served in combat arms (as opposed to being a USAF radio tech
        like me) would know what a target that reflector dish would have made.
        Brrrrrrr. BARS of pressure! Reckon how they tested the thing to determine the kill range?

        • Scarsdale
          October 14, 2022, 02:40 | # | Reply

          Another issue was the time it took to train the birds and since they didn’t
          make it back every time they were used it had to start all over again.
          Besides the infrared detection worked better once it was developed and
          didn’t need feed.

        • me
          October 14, 2022, 02:45 | # | Reply

          As far as I know the pigeon-gided missile was never more than
          an early concept (unless I’m mixing it up with another similar
          idea).

          It does have some very obvious problems: you have to train
          the birds quite intensively, you have to somehow tell them
          where you want the missile to strike.You have to keep the
          birds somewhere close to the weapon, ready and fed …

          And you have to make sure that they don’t for whatever
          reason decide to fly home instead towards the target.

          As for those wonder weapons in general you should take
          these stories with a grain of salt (or maybe rather a pitcher?)

          There’s plenty of rubbish tales about stuff like flying saucers
          powered by some mystery concept that we’re yet to rediscover.
          (No, it’s not me who made this one up – I’ve seen this “report”
          on television, presented in the same way stories about ghosts
          and “ancient aliens” are: Talk with some science guy, let them
          refute 98% of your absurd “theory”, then take the remaining 2%
          and ask “what if” …)

      • Bill Mullins
        October 13, 2022, 18:56 | # | Reply

        Got my scooter in today AND a very nice power lift to haul it
        around on. The lift is wired directly to my car’s battery. I
        guess it’s a good thing I replaced the battery yesterday with
        a heavier duty one. Anyhow, thanks to all the readers in the
        U.S. I appreciate your tax dollars.

        • Scarsdale
          October 14, 2022, 02:30 | # | Reply

          I’ve been trying to get a lift chair for my father his knees are in bad shape
          VA won’t give me a straight answer and Medicare will only cover the motor(s)
          I just LOVE dealing with bureaucrats….

        • Scarsdale
          October 14, 2022, 02:32 | # | Reply

          I’ve helped install one of those you might need a heavier alternator as well.

          • Bill Mullins
            October 14, 2022, 03:44 | # | Reply

            The lift is wired directly to the battery and the battery is just a high end, 750 cranking amps cold,
            model. I have had that exact battery on the car for years. Since the car came standard with power
            windows, power door locks, a power driver’s seat and air conditioning, it came standard with a
            heavier duty alternator. Not having a job I don’t drive often and that is not good for a battery so
            this is the 2nd battery I have put in the 2013 model car. Way back before I replaced the battery the
            1st time I researched online and confirmed the alternator could handle the higher end battery.
            To make sure I do not leave the lift key in the lift I put it on my key ring so I will not be using the
            lift while the engine is running.

            Re your dad: I don’t recall, does he already have a VA disability? If so and the mobility department
            is giving you the run around, then you need to go to the patient advocate section. I’ve been very
            fortunate. Aside from a couple of assholes (which, let’s face it are everywhere) and the contract
            clinic I am assigned for primary care the VA has over all taken good care of me. They did likewise
            for my father-in-law. They have taken pretty good care of my son as well once he got his disability
            (100%) approved. But there are assholes everywhere. It’s the squeaky wheel which gets greased
            so sometimes you have to make some noise to the right people. I wish you luck getting your dad
            what he needs. My son is a past DAV post commander and knows who to contact. If you are having
            trouble with the VA then reach out to local veterans’ groups. In my experience those guys are quick
            to step up for their fellow vets.

            • Scarsdale
              October 14, 2022, 10:38 | # | Reply

              I’ll try again last time they kept shifting me between the mobility and the
              home care I’ve even been to the VA doctor’s office on several occasions.
              Just to get the prescription for the chair I had to go through his family
              doctor. I thought the 7 year fight to get my disability was tough.

  5. notStanley
    October 13, 2022, 14:07 | # | Reply

    Sgt Markham best be gentle about setting
    “conditions” based on Dragonfly morals.
    If anyone uses those conditions to break the
    spirit of the agreements, that black eye could
    spread beyond him and the breaker :{

    Odds are he is being honorable, and just mentioning
    it so everyone knows what everyone knows going in :}

    • Scarsdale
      October 13, 2022, 16:03 | # | Reply

      That’s true he may only want Sunny to keep a low profile
      during Jonas’ stay in boot. For all we know he has
      a Dragonfly himself or someone in his family does.

  6. Paul
    October 13, 2022, 20:04 | # | Reply

    Personally I think the Sarge has one and that is how he knew.
    I think wants to ask Sunny not to pop up all the time someone
    gets upset with Jonas. In danger yes, but upset or yelling, no.

    • me
      October 14, 2022, 03:20 | # | Reply

      On the other hand – maybe his comrades should know?

      You wouldn’t want her to pop up during a firefight
      and confuse everybody.

  7. Kiddeagle
    October 15, 2022, 06:37 | # | Reply

    The shot glass of beer for Summer is SOOOO cute and funny

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