Sally’s next question, “Why will they destroy the bunker?
Does she know what happened? Doubtful.
Ser Slinom’s mouth now has both his feet and one arm
in it. Wow. Bets on whether his other arm will fit?
Doesn’t matter if she does or not, she’ll be alive to learn
why it was a REALLY bad idea, and by whom.
I’m sure that Smoke and Taritha is more than happy with
his limb-dietary needs if he doesn’t. shut. up.
The Catains would had their own space fleet if the slavers
hadn’t messed with them 500 years ago. Now that they do,
they are playing a very serious game of catch-up!
Ah, so he knows Matthew and by the connection, Teresa.
Explains much and maybe Sally will understand now too.
Mike is no traitor he just knows what’s coming and by who.
Slimy, I honestly think you are the dumbest “higher being”
I’ve ever seen, when will you learn you can’t just randomly
piss everyone off and get away with it? Catains were only
“primitives” because the slavers wanted it that way. And
Terran’s only fixed that issue and found very close friends
in the process! Maybe it’s time that the core gets a taste
of it’s own medicine.
You could argue that Captain Mike is a traitor.
“Treason” is defined as “the crime of betraying one’s country,
especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow
the government”. Working with Imperial Marines is – at least technically – a betrayal of the CSA. But it could also
be argued that assisting the IM to clear out noncombatants from
the affected area is no more than honoring his oath to protect
those same people. Ultimately it will depend upon the next
government of the CSA to decide. I hope Capt. Mike has a go-bag
ready. I expect that there will be people loyal to the former
regime calling for his head.
The only aid he has provided to the Empire is to help his own people,
he has done nothing against the interests of his government. In fact,
he tried to warn them as the best expert they had, and was demoted
and transferred for his efforts. As for your last sentence, well…
The Cat Sayeth Nothing.
Mobs always want a scapegoat, the target’s innocence has little
to do with it. And I doubt many in the CSA would care. “Someone
has to pay!” – will be the outcry.
It’s an ingrained response, any race they decide are “primitive”
must remain as such. Plus, any race they deem “primitive” is to
be subjugated and treated as minions, since they aren’t as advanced
enough to be respected/feared.
So now they have the “primitives” suddenly become advanced so
they fear reprisals from those they were mistreated so long,
rightly so. What they don’t understand is the Catians don’t seek
revenge nor does the Empire, it’s a totally new concept to them.
I’ve noticed something about human nature and I believe many
knows this as well, people always think that everyone else
thinks and acts like they do. That is ‘A’ thinks ” I want to (insert
illegal act), therefore ‘D’ wants it too” way of thinking, it’s why
there’s so much distrust. Most people can’t get past that way
of thinking, it’s an excuse as much as anything. A “Do unto others
before they can do unto you” way of thinking. Clearly here it’s not
just a human concept.
People will inevitably measure others by themselves. As you said,
if they would act in a certain way then everyone else will. I have
come up against that principle all my life. People will assume that
if they can do something then anyone can. Conversely if they
cannot do something then no one can. That simple misapprehension
has caused me much pain throughout my life. Once I became aware
of my own gifts and limitations and figured out the principle of
people measuring others by themselves it made a lot of my pain
understandable and marginally less unbearable.
The progression is simple:
It starts with “me” vs “not-me”
Not-me is different and therefore unknown/not understandable
What we do not understand, we fear
What we fear, we hate
What we hate we seek to destroy to greater or lesser degree.
“Different” = bad/evil
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
I think the shorthand term for what
you’re describing is “projection”.
“I accuse you of how I would behave,
I accuse you of what, I myself would do illegally.”
Years ago discussion on another webcomic comment group devolved into
an argument over torture, one person saying it was pointless anyway, the
victim will say whatever he thinks will make the pain stop, not necessarily
the truth, and another replied derisively something like “Really? Can you
think of another practice people persist in for centuries that gives unreliable
or negative results?”, so I gave them a list. A long one. Well after “Astrology”
were, consecutively, “Thinking you’re smarter than everyone else or can see
what they don’t” and “Thinking everyone else thinks and feels the same way
you do.” So, I agree.
President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
So true, much of any world can’t tell the difference.
“Oh no, they aren’t stoopid?!? What will we do!”
Then the “spider effect” kicks in and they try to
“step” on them.
I read a story in high school, I wish I could remember by whom. A group of ‘scientists’
found feuding tribes of Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon in Antarctica under the ice.
(Really, that’s a dumb place but the only place on the surface they could still be
undetected, so it was kinda forced.) They subjugated them, prepared to exploit them,
and all but the protagonists who objected were shocked when they quickly turned the
tables on them, figuring out how to use all their tools, weapons and implements by
observation. As someone said, “It should have been obvious, stupid cavemen didn’t
survive. It takes Civilization to enable that.”
Fun fact: Neanderthals survived something like 250 000 years or
maybe even 300 000 years – including several ice ages and warm
periods.
(And if you want really picky: a nice part of their genes did survive
in us up to the current date).
That’s easily three times as long as our own species.
Sally’s next question, “Why will they destroy the bunker?
Does she know what happened? Doubtful.
Ser Slinom’s mouth now has both his feet and one arm
in it. Wow. Bets on whether his other arm will fit?
Doesn’t matter if she does or not, she’ll be alive to learn
why it was a REALLY bad idea, and by whom.
I’m sure that Smoke and Taritha is more than happy with
his limb-dietary needs if he doesn’t. shut. up.
The Catains would had their own space fleet if the slavers
hadn’t messed with them 500 years ago. Now that they do,
they are playing a very serious game of catch-up!
Ah, so he knows Matthew and by the connection, Teresa.
Explains much and maybe Sally will understand now too.
Mike is no traitor he just knows what’s coming and by who.
Slimy, I honestly think you are the dumbest “higher being”
I’ve ever seen, when will you learn you can’t just randomly
piss everyone off and get away with it? Catains were only
“primitives” because the slavers wanted it that way. And
Terran’s only fixed that issue and found very close friends
in the process! Maybe it’s time that the core gets a taste
of it’s own medicine.
Never underestimate the stupidity of sentient beings,
or their ability to misquote Albert Einstein.
You could argue that Captain Mike is a traitor.
“Treason” is defined as “the crime of betraying one’s country,
especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow
the government”. Working with Imperial Marines is – at least
technically – a betrayal of the CSA. But it could also
be argued that assisting the IM to clear out noncombatants from
the affected area is no more than honoring his oath to protect
those same people. Ultimately it will depend upon the next
government of the CSA to decide. I hope Capt. Mike has a go-bag
ready. I expect that there will be people loyal to the former
regime calling for his head.
The only aid he has provided to the Empire is to help his own people,
he has done nothing against the interests of his government. In fact,
he tried to warn them as the best expert they had, and was demoted
and transferred for his efforts. As for your last sentence, well…
The Cat Sayeth Nothing.
Mobs always want a scapegoat, the target’s innocence has little
to do with it. And I doubt many in the CSA would care. “Someone
has to pay!” – will be the outcry.
It might depend on who of the government is left.
It might well be that he is the highest ranking
government official left after this.
no ‘go bag’,, he is the type to stand to last to protect the people..
and yes, the csa will call for his head,, “as he did Not do enough.”
Question for Slinom, define “primitive”.
The Catians have been slaves for most of their
existence. Maybe in his mind that would make
them …less developed?
It’s an ingrained response, any race they decide are “primitive”
must remain as such. Plus, any race they deem “primitive” is to
be subjugated and treated as minions, since they aren’t as advanced
enough to be respected/feared.
So now they have the “primitives” suddenly become advanced so
they fear reprisals from those they were mistreated so long,
rightly so. What they don’t understand is the Catians don’t seek
revenge nor does the Empire, it’s a totally new concept to them.
Slinom = ANY not of the ‘core’. or actually not Hammerhead.!
or that.
I’ve noticed something about human nature and I believe many
knows this as well, people always think that everyone else
thinks and acts like they do. That is ‘A’ thinks ” I want to (insert
illegal act), therefore ‘D’ wants it too” way of thinking, it’s why
there’s so much distrust. Most people can’t get past that way
of thinking, it’s an excuse as much as anything. A “Do unto others
before they can do unto you” way of thinking. Clearly here it’s not
just a human concept.
People will inevitably measure others by themselves. As you said,
if they would act in a certain way then everyone else will. I have
come up against that principle all my life. People will assume that
if they can do something then anyone can. Conversely if they
cannot do something then no one can. That simple misapprehension
has caused me much pain throughout my life. Once I became aware
of my own gifts and limitations and figured out the principle of
people measuring others by themselves it made a lot of my pain
understandable and marginally less unbearable.
The progression is simple:
It starts with “me” vs “not-me”
Not-me is different and therefore unknown/not understandable
What we do not understand, we fear
What we fear, we hate
What we hate we seek to destroy to greater or lesser degree.
“Different” = bad/evil
I think the shorthand term for what
you’re describing is “projection”.
“I accuse you of how I would behave,
I accuse you of what, I myself would do illegally.”
Years ago discussion on another webcomic comment group devolved into
an argument over torture, one person saying it was pointless anyway, the
victim will say whatever he thinks will make the pain stop, not necessarily
the truth, and another replied derisively something like “Really? Can you
think of another practice people persist in for centuries that gives unreliable
or negative results?”, so I gave them a list. A long one. Well after “Astrology”
were, consecutively, “Thinking you’re smarter than everyone else or can see
what they don’t” and “Thinking everyone else thinks and feels the same way
you do.” So, I agree.
Ser Slimy is conflating “ignorance” with “stoopid”.
Ignorance can be cured, but stoopid is forever.
Here’s your sign.
So true, much of any world can’t tell the difference.
“Oh no, they aren’t stoopid?!? What will we do!”
Then the “spider effect” kicks in and they try to
“step” on them.
I read a story in high school, I wish I could remember by whom. A group of ‘scientists’
found feuding tribes of Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon in Antarctica under the ice.
(Really, that’s a dumb place but the only place on the surface they could still be
undetected, so it was kinda forced.) They subjugated them, prepared to exploit them,
and all but the protagonists who objected were shocked when they quickly turned the
tables on them, figuring out how to use all their tools, weapons and implements by
observation. As someone said, “It should have been obvious, stupid cavemen didn’t
survive. It takes Civilization to enable that.”
Fun fact: Neanderthals survived something like 250 000 years or
maybe even 300 000 years – including several ice ages and warm
periods.
(And if you want really picky: a nice part of their genes did survive
in us up to the current date).
That’s easily three times as long as our own species.