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Is it self interest or just the Imperial 
way of doing things?
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TGW-1172

Chapter: Walker's War
Characters: eitha, gortha, harvey, iris, Jonathan, jorge, kor'na, marine, sph, the plank
Location: boardroom, station meeting room
└ Tags: "weapon revealed", hard sell

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  1. Scarsdale
    November 8, 2023, 20:21 | # | Reply

    Good Lawd, really? Dean, the only reason someone isn’t slapping you
    numb right now is you don’t exist! The whole “You may begin to beg
    now” makes ME want to dribble his skull along that desk! PC, this
    guy has to have the worst case of “Karen-isum” I’ve seen so far.
    I hope the board gets disbanded over this crap.

    Good pay for good work, building up and having a nice little profit
    to pay to their bosses by the end, and a good taste of what a REAL
    government feels like. The core WILL learn what the Empire is about,
    whether they want to or not!

    • Paul
      November 8, 2023, 20:28 | # | Reply

      Yup you’re right about the dean being a Karen or is it a Ken?
      Either way he is a twit or the first degree.

      • Sam
        November 8, 2023, 21:20 | # | Reply

        He’s a typical bureaucrat. Do as I say, not as I do.
        Because I said so, that’s why.

      • President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
        November 8, 2023, 23:23 | # | Reply

        IIRC, a male “Karen” is a “Karl”.

        • Sam
          November 9, 2023, 00:32 | # | Reply

          Karl, Ken, whatever. Pain in the ass is what they are.

        • Scarsdale
          November 9, 2023, 08:05 | # | Reply

          I thought it was “Kevin” but no matter, anyone like that
          gets the tiniest amount of power, they go mad with it.

          My own mother almost straggled a clerk at the building
          commission for this very reason. A 5′ tall, heavy set
          woman in her late 60’s driving across a counter….

          I guess it made an impression, they did get the building
          permit…

        • rob stanley
          November 9, 2023, 08:58 | # | Reply

          male karen = ken,. as per ‘google-foo’.
          but Sam is right, name dependent on zone.

  2. Paul
    November 8, 2023, 20:26 | # | Reply

    Miss Lizzard is the only one that has a clue.
    At least to my thinking. Look at her grin.
    The bunnies are right it is easier and
    cheaper to let them rule themselves.

  3. President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
    November 8, 2023, 23:26 | # | Reply

    Sunshine and publicly are the best disinfectant.
    Are you SURE you want Jorge to open the door
    to spotlights, cameras, and flashbulbs?

  4. Bill Mullins
    November 9, 2023, 07:20 | # | Reply

    “Is it self interest or just the Imperial way of doing things?”
    It is both. Enlightened self interest is the core of how the
    Empire does things. Nearly 40 years ago I constructed an
    entire ethos out of enlightened sloth and self interest. It
    really is simple. In this case the Empire knows that you
    get more and higher quality work out of hired help than
    from slaves. One wonders how many more wonder
    weapons the Germans might have been able to produce
    if they had paid the workers in their factories a living
    wage instead of employing slave labor. I suppose it was
    a good thing for Britain that they didn’t.

  5. Bill Mullins
    November 9, 2023, 07:26 | # | Reply

    I could make up a copy of the Wolf Empire flag if anyone wanted
    to use it as wallpaper. Currently the flag has 10 stars although
    I would want to slightly rearrange the stars.
    Here is an 8-star flag I made for PC in ’20.
    https://www.deviantart.com/bmullins3/art/wolf-flag-EG1-888315008
    If someone wants it we’ll have to figure out a way to transmit it.

    • Petercat
      November 9, 2023, 13:45 | # | Reply

      I could always post it here as a bonus page. People could download
      it and resize it to suit their monitors.
      Mine is Amillu dancing with two blades, of course I have my monitor
      pivoted to portrait mode so she fits.

    • Jochi
      November 9, 2023, 14:41 | # | Reply

      Maybe put the stars for Terran kingdoms on one side
      and those for extra-Terran kingdoms on the other?

      • Petercat
        November 10, 2023, 11:20 | # | Reply

        Nah. All Kingdoms are equal.
        Don’t want to divide them into Terran and Non-Terran.

  6. Bill Mullins
    November 9, 2023, 07:33 | # | Reply

    I’ve been working on PC’s space freighter for a while now. I
    actually have useable cargo pods made and an interesting
    lattice work frame for a spine. The thing I don’t like about the
    models I’ve made is that they are really low poly and that
    can equate to lower visual quality. I DLed a free model of a
    flying saucer the other day and when I imported it into my
    3D modeler I was shocked at how many polys it had. I think
    I know how to enrich my models to more resemble that free
    model. I’m going to experiment and see if I cannot make
    my models richer in detail.

    Catman, pls check email.

    • Scarsdale
      November 9, 2023, 07:57 | # | Reply

      You could up the level of polys just by adding surface details,
      like a framework on the outside of the container, to add structural
      strengthening. I’m thinking the pods were a frame that had the
      gaps filled in rather than a box inside the framework. That way
      it’s just a outline, not actual structure. Like the tiny flowers
      I added to the flower pots I printed for my sister.

      • Bill Mullins
        November 9, 2023, 08:49 | # | Reply

        That’s the kind of stuff I’m going to try to figure out.
        I have useable models for the Catman but I want to level up my game.

      • Bill Mullins
        November 9, 2023, 11:15 | # | Reply

        Actually the pods are a properly sized hexagon extruded in the Z dimension.
        To produce the illusion of structure I used Anim8or’s “extrude faces connected
        command to inset all but the ends and middle faces leaving the illusion of
        structure. For longwise frame elements I made another smaller hexagon
        modified it and extruded it to the length needed. Then I rotated those “beams”
        as needed in increments of 60 degrees. I think the result is usable.
        https://www.deviantart.com/bmullins3/art/Cargo-Pod-Long-993380519
        The problem is what sort of surface details to add to an industrial object
        to make it look “real”. Note the black dots on the “frame” are coupling
        points per PC.

      • Bill Mullins
        November 9, 2023, 11:19 | # | Reply

        Here is a pod for pressurized gaseous or liquid cargo.
        https://www.deviantart.com/bmullins3/art/Pressurized-Long-993381221

        • Scarsdale
          November 9, 2023, 12:59 | # | Reply

          Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Good job! I’m sure PC will like it,
          I really need to step up my game with either Blender or Fusion 260.

          • Petercat
            November 9, 2023, 13:46 | # | Reply

            How are you doing on the 3D printing front? I Need Things.

            • Scarsdale
              November 9, 2023, 18:53 | # | Reply

              Give me a list, and I’ll see what I can do, My Ender is being a bitch.
              I fix one issue and another pops up.
              The Soval seems to be good to go, in my rush to get it fixed I forgot
              to re-tram the Z axis so I had to redo the Z-offset as well. This week’s
              been crazy, I had 3 doc appts., my father needed one ASAP because
              of a chest cold, and tmw I have to take my wife to see her breathing
              doc. I’ve been running on fumes…

              • Petercat
                November 9, 2023, 20:07 | # | Reply

                Well, there’s already the 70mm fan duct…
                I have a top-mounted 90mm fan that’s outside of the case,
                I need a cover for it….
                And a couple of stands for big Western Digital external drives
                that I can mount a 40mm fan in and a wire cloth filter…
                I’ll send you some sketches.

                • Scarsdale
                  November 10, 2023, 05:25 | # | Reply

                  ARGH!… Damn thing is still over-extruding! Calibrating a direct-drive
                  extruder is damned tricky…
                  I found a printable stand that holds up to 4 – 3.5 HDD, I’ll D/L it and
                  see how to mod it for the fans for you. I picked up a 2kg roll of white
                  nylon and another 200 gram roll of black, I’ve got a neighbor asking
                  for cow fence insulators as well. THAT’s a big ask, But at this rate, the
                  Carbon X1 is starting to look worth it if I keep getting big orders…
                  Only $1200…

                  • Petercat
                    November 10, 2023, 05:31 | # | Reply

                    Actually, I need a stand for one of these:
                    https://www.westerndigital.com/content/dam/store/en-us/assets/products/desktop/my-book-usb-3-0-hdd/featured/my-book-new-g2.jpg.wdthumb.1280.1280.webp
                    Well, two stands. I want to draw air through a 2X5″ wire cloth filter and
                    blow it up through the drive with the 40mm fan.

                    • Scarsdale
                      November 10, 2023, 05:41 | #

                      ah ok I have one of those myself, a 4 gig.

                    • Petercat
                      November 10, 2023, 06:14 | #

                      Is yours the sharp-edged one as shown, or the one with the rounded front
                      like a book?
                      https://www.westerndigital.com/content/dam/store/en-us/assets/products/desktop/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd/gallery/wd-elements-desktop-right.png.wdthumb.1280.1280.webp
                      I have two of each, but the book type are old and I don’t use them much.
                      A stand that will fit the sharp-edged one will fit both types, but not vise-versa. .

                    • Scarsdale
                      November 10, 2023, 10:28 | #

                      It’s sharp-edged, but it’s not a WD, it’s a scandisk
                      so it sits basically on it’s side from your picture.
                      My other is a WD, but it’s a tiny laptop model.
                      I was wrong, they aren’t 2 and 4 gig, they are
                      terabyte.

          • Bill Mullins
            November 9, 2023, 18:18 | # | Reply

            You would be surprised how low poly that model is. Most of the
            polys are the black dots with are actually small black cylinders.

  7. Jochi
    November 9, 2023, 17:18 | # | Reply

    Harvey’s “a government on the Imperial model and Imperial law” stops short of
    saying they would be citizens or PART of the Empire, merely compatible. His “as
    all Imperial governments do” could be interpreted either way, but for now I will
    assume he’s just saying this hypothetical government would “do things our way”,
    not “will be part of us”. At the very least, however, the execs and workers will
    as others have said get a taste for what it would be like to live as part of the
    Empire, which they will take home with them if and when they go home. And
    one government for three species (we know of) in an enclave on a fourth
    species’ home world. This will complicate the simplistic one species, one world,
    one government model so far in place off-Terra within the Empire.

    • Scarsdale
      November 9, 2023, 19:07 | # | Reply

      That’s what I mentioned, Harvey wants them to use Imperial laws
      to govern themselves with, it is the law of the planet anyway. And it
      will give them a solid taste of Imperial life under those laws!
      It worked pretty well with the troops from Lamia, 8k out of over 9k
      isn’t bad at all. each and every time someone finds out how little
      the Imperials actually do to their people, the core looks less and
      less appealing.

    • Petercat
      November 9, 2023, 20:13 | # | Reply

      Wait until they find out that, in addition to their increased pay,
      that there is no income or property tax. Just a single, 25% sales tax.
      Local government (theirs) gets 10%, Kingdom gets 10%, and Empire gets 5%.
      A pay increase, one tax, and they get to own and build on prime real estate.

      • Scarsdale
        November 10, 2023, 05:35 | # | Reply

        25% sales tax is scary-sounding at first, but since it’s the ONLY
        tax it would make saving more worth it. Plus the lack of income
        tax makes investing much more profitable!

      • Bill Mullins
        November 10, 2023, 06:53 | # | Reply

        But for a while, until entrepreneurs start manufacturing
        consumer goods, everything is going to be very expensive.
        Consumer goods will have to all be imported. Even food
        until they get the farms and food processing plants up
        and running. Reckon how prepared they came to set up
        an actual functioning colony.

  8. Jochi
    November 9, 2023, 17:24 | # | Reply

    How long after the classroom incident is the board
    meeting taking place? It didn’t feel like Walker
    had a lot of time to ‘re-educate’ the miscreant and
    have the new version so deeply impress Miss Lizzard.

    • Scarsdale
      November 9, 2023, 19:00 | # | Reply

      I suspect it wasn’t long after, Ms. Lizzard said “once you got that
      garbage out of your head” kinda tells me he was on something that
      drove him crazy. Mushrooms alone can make someone go off the rails
      pretty easily. Now I wonder if it wasn’t something those 3 had
      anything to do with? Something they are making cash on the side with?

      • Petercat
        November 9, 2023, 20:16 | # | Reply

        You’ll find out what garbage she’s talking about on Friday.
        It’s not drugs. But is mind-warping and harmful, and feels good.

        • Scarsdale
          November 10, 2023, 05:39 | # | Reply

          Oh jeez, not some cult BS… My oldest got in with a
          church that had my 15 y/o son going door to door
          preaching and “selling” bibles… I was NOT happy…

          • Petercat
            November 10, 2023, 06:19 | # | Reply

            Oh, it’s cult BS all right, a religion even. But….
            You’ll see. And you’ll slap yourself on the forehead and exclaim:
            “Damn! It was so obvious!”
            …
            Y’know, if we call the front of our head the “forehead”, why don’t
            we call the back the “afthead”?

            • Bill Mullins
              November 10, 2023, 07:01 | # | Reply

              Or just the “backhead”. I just did a quick search and could find
              no evidence for a term for the back of the head. Apparently
              we don’t refer to it often enough to have developed a word
              for it!

              • Scarsdale
                November 10, 2023, 11:07 | # | Reply

                Just call it the “Mom slap-point” because I had to learn to duck fast…
                LOL.

    • Petercat
      November 9, 2023, 20:13 | # | Reply

      You’ll find out Friday.

      • President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neanderthal B Woodman Domestic Violent Extremist SuperStraight
        November 9, 2023, 21:09 | # | Reply

        Tomorrow….

  9. Scarsdale
    November 10, 2023, 10:45 | # | Reply

    The things you find…
    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1030236
    For those who love Starbucks.

    • Petercat
      November 10, 2023, 11:30 | # | Reply

      It would fit in any cup, but why?
      Seems like a very large way to carry an HDD
      that would normally slip into your pocket.

      • Scarsdale
        November 10, 2023, 18:16 | # | Reply

        Who knows, I just thought it was funny that someone would bother.
        I guess to make it look like it was just a coffee rather than an
        expensive HDD and battery backup?? If you’re dumb enough to walk
        away from your stuff, you deserve to lose it.

  10. Scarsdale
    November 10, 2023, 11:05 | # | Reply

    PC, I found a usable rack for the Ext. HDD that I can add a fan to the side.
    It takes up almost my entire print bed!

    • Scarsdale
      November 10, 2023, 11:13 | # | Reply

      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2305718

      • Petercat
        November 10, 2023, 15:06 | # | Reply

        That’s not a very good idea. Western Digital drives are designed
        to stand upright, with vents at the top and bottom for convection
        cooling. Mounted on their sides like that, they would effectively have no airflow.
        This is why I want a base for mine with a 40mm fan blowing upward
        and space for a wire cloth air filter to keep the dust out. Heat
        is the enemy of drives, both spinner and SSD.

    • Petercat
      November 10, 2023, 11:17 | # | Reply

      I sent you an email with photos and a sketch of the external HDD mount.
      The 40mm fan needs to be inside so the wire cloth filter will be
      effective.
      Wire cloth is pretty restrictive, that’s why the filter opening is so
      large. And the filter is corrugated.
      I forgot to add that if you can put some sort of protective grille in
      the filter opening to protect the mesh, that would be great!

      • Scarsdale
        November 10, 2023, 18:34 | # | Reply

        Not a big deal, I’m working on the stand now. I was hoping someone
        had already made one, but nope. I take bits from other people for
        either inspiration, or if I’m lucky someone else already made one like
        it I can tweek.

      • Scarsdale
        November 10, 2023, 18:43 | # | Reply

        I like the blue PLA

  11. Michael
    May 21, 2024, 14:04 | # | Reply

    coop companies or workers owned companies are quite the socialistic idea. in switzerland there is the coop, a cooperative of trading and retail. or the spanish mondragon one of the biggest corps in spain where the workers all share the company. They even elect their bosses (when they have the qualification) and the CEO. The CEO makes only 8 times what the lowest worker makes. They are quite successful.

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