the stun baton.. basically a cattle prod. stun device (sd) an a cattle prod (cp) do different things. sd = temporary effects an no lasting effect (except taser darts.) .. cp = Pain. it uses pain to move a stubborn animal,. and it causes damage with long term use, or continual contact.. when used as a “torture device” it has been known to cause horrific scarring, an in cases loss of use of limbs.. (it fries the nerves an muscles.)
i grew up just outside the largest (at the time) cattle plant in the US. a third of my family worked there. so i know of “cattle prods”.. they used at least 15 different types,, an i still have two of em..
Pet peev: “high-caliber” Have seen the phrase used in 2 different books by 2 different authors this morning. Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no such thing. “High power” (in reference to the projectile) or “large caliber” I get but “high caliber” whiskey tango foxtrot is that? Am I wrong? In my book the use of that phrase indicates a serious lack of knowledge/understanding about firearms.
For the record, the reason shit like that bugs me so is because I read very fast (500 – 700 wpm usually) and coming across stuff like that is like clipping a speed bump at 60. Aggravates/vexes me no end.
ok .. there is no definite on “high power, -caliber.” .. it depends on who or how you ask.! IE: the “AR-15” is high power, because it is a black scary gun,, it is military, it has high capacity, but not high caliber..
high power (in general) = any military weapon, just because.. or some exotic bullet combination (6.5 Creedmoore ) ..
high caliber = in general any thing above a .22 … or,, in comparison to the standard,, IE: 9mm is standard, so the .45 is high caliber,, an .223 is standard so the 6.5 is high caliber ..
So I’m right and anybody who uses the phrase “high caliber” is an ignoramus who essentially knows squat all about firearms. I agree that for most people today – aided, abetted and encouraged by the LSM – any black long gun (rifle or shotgun) with a pistol grip is super powerful and something to be feared and above all BANNNED! Technically .556 is a medium power cartridge and even my sweet 7.62 x 51/.308 Winchester (FNAR) is medium power – albeit at the top of that range. Not sure where the 6.5 falls since I am unfamilar with that round.
the 5.56 vs the 6.5 .. are both medium power.. the 5.56 was made with one purpose ,, wound not kill.. after WWII the idea of trench warfare (long range shooting) went away.. so now we need a “300 yard weapon” that is small an light weight for close combat.. hence the 5.56 /.223.
the 6.5 is the attempt to use the same package,. but get terminal (lethal) results out to 600 yards.. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f1fd141c94bfa2091d286e0d0fd70bb3.webp
Damned scarey lookin gun there! Ain’t even black!! Just look at that evil folding stock and those awful curved “banana clips”! And that sling! Why it’s enough to give a body the vapors. Yes, it is! Nobody needs awful things like that. NOBODY!!! (removes tongue from cheek) 🙂
In my opinion (having many reloading manuals for reference) 5.56 is low powered. It’s one of the weakest centerfire rifle cartridges in existence. In terms of muzzle energy, it only beats a handful such as the .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, and .223 Fireball. The vast majority of rifle rounds are more powerful. So, low powered.
Back in ’82 I was working as a programmer in Dayton Ohio, and when the fall rolled around, I asked about deer season. They told me that in Ohio, you had to hunt deer with buckshot or deer slugs in a shotgun, no high-powered rifles. I said no problem, my deer rifle was only a 30/30. I was told that any rifle bigger than a 22 was high powered. Which I thought was stupid, a .222 came closer to being high-powered than a 30/30. Didn’t go deer hunting.
Ah, my first deer rifle, when I was barely big enough to carry it (up and down over the Ozark hills). Loved it. I also always thought it was stupid that hard point shells that would go through a rib cage and hit something behind it were legal when hollow points or soft points that would stop when they hit something weren’t. My dad just said that for the most part gun laws weren’t passed by people who knew anything about guns.
did you know… hollow points were invented by cops… they wanted a round (other than round nose.) that would not pass thru a target , an cause more collateral damage ..
Years ago, when I was into flight simming, there was a forum I liked to comment at. It had some odd censoring behavior. It would replace the “offensive” word – or even part of a word – with something allegedly innocuous – usually “thingy”. The results were often humorous. On that board we flew our simulated aircraft from a thingypit. On that board apparently it was a thingy that crowed at sunup. LOL IIRC, there were other disallowed words but thingypit has stuck in my memory.
Hmmm… Panel four… ‘Ride Of The Valkyries’ or ‘Ghost Riders In The Storm’?
Last panel… It kept not takes one to rip him a new one…
IF the purple one grabs an holds on,, yeah it can do damage,, but it gives the last one a chance…
http://thegentlewolf.net/comic/tgw-743/ Panel 6.
Okay. I looked back at 743-6 and still don’t get it. Help a dense old coot out??
the stun baton.. basically a cattle prod. stun device (sd) an a cattle prod (cp) do different things. sd = temporary effects an no lasting effect (except taser darts.) .. cp = Pain. it uses pain to move a stubborn animal,. and it causes damage with long term use, or continual contact.. when used as a “torture device” it has been known to cause horrific scarring, an in cases loss of use of limbs.. (it fries the nerves an muscles.)
i grew up just outside the largest (at the time) cattle plant in the US. a third of my family worked there. so i know of “cattle prods”.. they used at least 15 different types,, an i still have two of em..
Talking about Loria having a severely wounded cat on board.
ALSO: sound on Monday.!!
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot about it.
Pet peev: “high-caliber” Have seen the phrase used in 2 different books by 2 different authors this morning. Correct me if I’m wrong but there’s no such thing. “High power” (in reference to the projectile) or “large caliber” I get but “high caliber” whiskey tango foxtrot is that? Am I wrong? In my book the use of that phrase indicates a serious lack of knowledge/understanding about firearms.
For the record, the reason shit like that bugs me so is because I read very fast (500 – 700 wpm usually) and coming across stuff like that is like clipping a speed bump at 60. Aggravates/vexes me no end.
A couple of my reading speed bumps:
“Tow the line”
“Reap what they’ve sewn”
And any mangled quote of historical context, Faulkner be damned.
ok .. there is no definite on “high power, -caliber.” .. it depends on who or how you ask.! IE: the “AR-15” is high power, because it is a black scary gun,, it is military, it has high capacity, but not high caliber..
high power (in general) = any military weapon, just because.. or some exotic bullet combination (6.5 Creedmoore ) ..
high caliber = in general any thing above a .22 … or,, in comparison to the standard,, IE: 9mm is standard, so the .45 is high caliber,, an .223 is standard so the 6.5 is high caliber ..
So I’m right and anybody who uses the phrase “high caliber” is an ignoramus who essentially knows squat all about firearms. I agree that for most people today – aided, abetted and encouraged by the LSM – any black long gun (rifle or shotgun) with a pistol grip is super powerful and something to be feared and above all BANNNED! Technically .556 is a medium power cartridge and even my sweet 7.62 x 51/.308 Winchester (FNAR) is medium power – albeit at the top of that range. Not sure where the 6.5 falls since I am unfamilar with that round.
the 5.56 vs the 6.5 .. are both medium power.. the 5.56 was made with one purpose ,, wound not kill.. after WWII the idea of trench warfare (long range shooting) went away.. so now we need a “300 yard weapon” that is small an light weight for close combat.. hence the 5.56 /.223.
the 6.5 is the attempt to use the same package,. but get terminal (lethal) results out to 600 yards..
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f1fd141c94bfa2091d286e0d0fd70bb3.webp
this is considered “high power” (an in some areas,, high caliber.!).!!!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsofrep.com%2Fgear%2F7-ruger-1022-accessories-survival-readiness%2F&psig=AOvVaw1Gtu08KHdnQ0i2sT9sHHDd&ust=1613328350203000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCMiUxejC5-4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
Damned scarey lookin gun there! Ain’t even black!! Just look at that evil folding stock and those awful curved “banana clips”! And that sling! Why it’s enough to give a body the vapors. Yes, it is! Nobody needs awful things like that. NOBODY!!! (removes tongue from cheek) 🙂
In my opinion (having many reloading manuals for reference) 5.56 is low powered. It’s one of the weakest centerfire rifle cartridges in existence. In terms of muzzle energy, it only beats a handful such as the .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, and .223 Fireball. The vast majority of rifle rounds are more powerful. So, low powered.
Back in ’82 I was working as a programmer in Dayton Ohio, and when the fall rolled around, I asked about deer season. They told me that in Ohio, you had to hunt deer with buckshot or deer slugs in a shotgun, no high-powered rifles. I said no problem, my deer rifle was only a 30/30. I was told that any rifle bigger than a 22 was high powered. Which I thought was stupid, a .222 came closer to being high-powered than a 30/30. Didn’t go deer hunting.
Well, there’s the .30 Carbine. I suppose it is to be feared because it has the energy of the .357 Magnum.
Ah, my first deer rifle, when I was barely big enough to carry it (up and down over the Ozark hills). Loved it. I also always thought it was stupid that hard point shells that would go through a rib cage and hit something behind it were legal when hollow points or soft points that would stop when they hit something weren’t. My dad just said that for the most part gun laws weren’t passed by people who knew anything about guns.
did you know… hollow points were invented by cops… they wanted a round (other than round nose.) that would not pass thru a target , an cause more collateral damage ..
On a brighter note:
https://www.quora.com/What-pictures-prove-kindness-costs-nothing-but-means-everything
I just had a comment censored on another website because I mentioned the Dick Van Dyke Show.
This crap is going too far.
For using the word Dyke?
Either that or Dick.
Years ago, when I was into flight simming, there was a forum I liked to comment at. It had some odd censoring behavior. It would replace the “offensive” word – or even part of a word – with something allegedly innocuous – usually “thingy”. The results were often humorous. On that board we flew our simulated aircraft from a thingypit. On that board apparently it was a thingy that crowed at sunup. LOL IIRC, there were other disallowed words but thingypit has stuck in my memory.
Did it flag “Joystick” or was that too subtle?