Think of shields as another layer of armor. Shields may well stop directed energy weapons and turn aside projectile weapons but you set off a big enough explosion close enough (blast waves don’t propagate for crap in a vacuum) and unless the craft has some sort of inertial damping just knocking the craft around is gonna mess up whatever’s in side it. Shields also shouldn’t effect gravity beams since they work on the mass of the craft as well as its contents.
Of course I could be full of brown, smelly stuff and one of the others will correct me.
you are not full of it.. that’s how they took out the first craft.. i think the the quote is ” I’m not having pizza tonight.! ” .. so gravity weapons work just fine on shields..
It seems to me that you could use the Empire’s grav tech to make a dandy mine. Whenever the mine is triggered, it immediately turns on a 100 mega-G field which would suck it up as close as the spacecraft’s shielding allowed and just sit there producing a focused G field equivalent to, say, 10X the sun’s gravity. That ought to well and truly pancake the part of the ship closest to the mine.
Whatcha think, Mr. Cat? Mine the approaches/exits of the wormhole with mines that only “fire” if the approaching vessel fails to transmit the proper IFF code.
Great idea, I hadn’t thought of that. You’re the commo expert, why don’t you set it up? Design the system, give me the specs. My problem is that gravity tech makes the Imperial Navy too formidable, used properly they make it near invincible. Maybe throw some human (Terran) failure into the system? Remember gravity falloff/distance, don’t want them too powerful. How many G’s can sentient life survive?
Could the mines operate on a passive system, where they only react to known military emissions? Or with a sentient backup in small, multiple fortresses or sentry outposts?
Come up with some ideas, please.
looked it up… a conditioned human 4.5g long term ,, up to 90g no more than 5min ,completely stationary, .. if moving up to 10g,, bones start breaking at 10g.. an 5 min cuz blood is not moving,, it’s pooled in your ankles , or lowest point.. .. pilots start blacking out at 7g..
? too formidable .? US had the A-bomb years before anyone else .. i wood say make it the ” human element ” some one has to pull the trigger,, who knows what gonna happen when they do.!! IE: a sniper..
suns gravity = 28x earth (27.6 at photosphere) so , 28 X 10 = 280g ..
Geez! I just thought of what would happen with a spherical gravity implosion device, surrounded in a bed of lithium and dueterium… I haven’t done the math yet, but I guesstimate a 250 G implosion should be enough to create a pretty clean fusion bomb…
an think how s.o.l. Chirk would have been if it had been mined when she came thru, in a stolen craft… an i don’t think Babydoll’s ship HAD correct IFF…
It’s up now, and it looks better on this desktop that on my phone. I couldn’t figure out what was going on with Robert’s hair in the tiny picture. Answer, nothing, it’s just two-tone, which I never noticed before. Huh, I thought he married Madea off-camera BEFORE Amillu dropped her bombshell. I guess not. I guess it’s possible she’s dressed that way to indicate Amillu is joining both of them, but I don’t think so. In that case her gown would be different. Kudos on making the two gowns different styles. The two women are individuals, and deserve to be dressed as such.
Robert and Madea are both marrying Amillu. The two were married soon after they returned to Jerico after dealing with the “Marauders” in Thornton.
Robert’s hair is slicked back.
Oh, yeah. Jonathan is either notifying Teresa he’ll be going into the mountains, or asking to be in on any interrogations of prisoners. Neither point to happy times for the brigands. “Others” at this point is just Misha, although Robert doesn’t know about Larissa, probably. This is not going to be good news.
I assume the door guard is laughing uproariously, although I thought she was yawning at first. And Rob had my other comment before me.
Can the shield projectors/generators be targeted with gravity beams on a capital ship or a transport? If so, the crew and troop cargo could awaken to find their bridge and engineering occupied by boarders, from one of which the emergency bulkheads or whatever they use to seal off sections to fight decompression or fire should be able to be activated. Where are they located and how are they protected? Kelsie might not know that answer, but if she doesn’t Chirk might. She spent a lot of time on Pick’s computer, and he’s a ship’s engineer.
0hh here’s a ideal.. a limpet mine that puts the whole ship at say 8g .. don’t kill anyone,, everyone is stuck to the floor,, or in the chair/couch an can’t move…
with the human option of “pulling the trigger” at 100g..
so.. mines at the worm hole, ship comes in , ship now stuck.. patrol craft is notified , mine activated ,, it’s one of ours , remove mine.. have a nice day.. or not one of ours, “surrender you vessel or die.!” “you have one minute.!” … (after they wake,, not while they are still drooling)
Mines will be one of the results of when Old Bill, Pick and Kathy’s beau (never can remember his name) have their get together and do some brainstorming. But that won’t be until well after the war to free Cattia. Just before you’re about to go to war is the absolute WORST time to go introducing new weapons or auxiliary equipment. Everything you take to war with you has to be state of the art (Que Inigo Montoya saying”I do not think that word means what you think it means.”) i.e. nothing experimental, everything absolutely tried-and-true and off-the-shelf technology. People think “state of the art means something super and bleeding edge but all it really means is everything is well proven and mature technology. Yes, the 3rd Reich used “wonder weapons” which were in many cases experimental; but that was their backs were to the wall and they really had no choice. They had to try and come up with something which would be a force multiplier and help them if not to win then at least to have more favorable terms after surrender.
but the “Mark 14 Torpedo.” WWII’s cutting edge , state of the art , do all weapon.. that was never tried or
tested (correctly) an when it failed (most of the way in WWII) it was the operators fault.!
“Not even shields will work against it, since they don’t block inertia”
You lost me! Anybody care to help a poor ignorant liberal arts major?
Think of shields as another layer of armor. Shields may well stop directed energy weapons and turn aside projectile weapons but you set off a big enough explosion close enough (blast waves don’t propagate for crap in a vacuum) and unless the craft has some sort of inertial damping just knocking the craft around is gonna mess up whatever’s in side it. Shields also shouldn’t effect gravity beams since they work on the mass of the craft as well as its contents.
Of course I could be full of brown, smelly stuff and one of the others will correct me.
you are not full of it.. that’s how they took out the first craft.. i think the the quote is ” I’m not having pizza tonight.! ” .. so gravity weapons work just fine on shields..
It seems to me that you could use the Empire’s grav tech to make a dandy mine. Whenever the mine is triggered, it immediately turns on a 100 mega-G field which would suck it up as close as the spacecraft’s shielding allowed and just sit there producing a focused G field equivalent to, say, 10X the sun’s gravity. That ought to well and truly pancake the part of the ship closest to the mine.
Whatcha think, Mr. Cat? Mine the approaches/exits of the wormhole with mines that only “fire” if the approaching vessel fails to transmit the proper IFF code.
Great idea, I hadn’t thought of that. You’re the commo expert, why don’t you set it up? Design the system, give me the specs. My problem is that gravity tech makes the Imperial Navy too formidable, used properly they make it near invincible. Maybe throw some human (Terran) failure into the system? Remember gravity falloff/distance, don’t want them too powerful. How many G’s can sentient life survive?
Could the mines operate on a passive system, where they only react to known military emissions? Or with a sentient backup in small, multiple fortresses or sentry outposts?
Come up with some ideas, please.
looked it up… a conditioned human 4.5g long term ,, up to 90g no more than 5min ,completely stationary, .. if moving up to 10g,, bones start breaking at 10g.. an 5 min cuz blood is not moving,, it’s pooled in your ankles , or lowest point.. .. pilots start blacking out at 7g..
? too formidable .? US had the A-bomb years before anyone else .. i wood say make it the ” human element ” some one has to pull the trigger,, who knows what gonna happen when they do.!! IE: a sniper..
suns gravity = 28x earth (27.6 at photosphere) so , 28 X 10 = 280g ..
Geez! I just thought of what would happen with a spherical gravity implosion device, surrounded in a bed of lithium and dueterium… I haven’t done the math yet, but I guesstimate a 250 G implosion should be enough to create a pretty clean fusion bomb…
IFF only works if everybody has IFF..
an think how s.o.l. Chirk would have been if it had been mined when she came thru, in a stolen craft… an i don’t think Babydoll’s ship HAD correct IFF…
It would be like wiring the trigger of a shotgun to your front door. Not a good idea.
ohh yeah,, vote incentive still down…
It’s up now, and it looks better on this desktop that on my phone. I couldn’t figure out what was going on with Robert’s hair in the tiny picture. Answer, nothing, it’s just two-tone, which I never noticed before. Huh, I thought he married Madea off-camera BEFORE Amillu dropped her bombshell. I guess not. I guess it’s possible she’s dressed that way to indicate Amillu is joining both of them, but I don’t think so. In that case her gown would be different. Kudos on making the two gowns different styles. The two women are individuals, and deserve to be dressed as such.
Robert and Madea are both marrying Amillu. The two were married soon after they returned to Jerico after dealing with the “Marauders” in Thornton.
Robert’s hair is slicked back.
an i agree with Robert, both smart beautiful women,, how can i pick one..
Oh, yeah. Jonathan is either notifying Teresa he’ll be going into the mountains, or asking to be in on any interrogations of prisoners. Neither point to happy times for the brigands. “Others” at this point is just Misha, although Robert doesn’t know about Larissa, probably. This is not going to be good news.
I assume the door guard is laughing uproariously, although I thought she was yawning at first. And Rob had my other comment before me.
oh. Duh. Alt-text says it’s a yawn.
no… that’s the ‘ look ‘ of someone breaking bad news… an the way it’s dragging out .. an what Dagger did .. i think, Misha is dead or dying..
Can the shield projectors/generators be targeted with gravity beams on a capital ship or a transport? If so, the crew and troop cargo could awaken to find their bridge and engineering occupied by boarders, from one of which the emergency bulkheads or whatever they use to seal off sections to fight decompression or fire should be able to be activated. Where are they located and how are they protected? Kelsie might not know that answer, but if she doesn’t Chirk might. She spent a lot of time on Pick’s computer, and he’s a ship’s engineer.
0hh here’s a ideal.. a limpet mine that puts the whole ship at say 8g .. don’t kill anyone,, everyone is stuck to the floor,, or in the chair/couch an can’t move…
with the human option of “pulling the trigger” at 100g..
so.. mines at the worm hole, ship comes in , ship now stuck.. patrol craft is notified , mine activated ,, it’s one of ours , remove mine.. have a nice day.. or not one of ours, “surrender you vessel or die.!” “you have one minute.!” … (after they wake,, not while they are still drooling)
Mines will be one of the results of when Old Bill, Pick and Kathy’s beau (never can remember his name) have their get together and do some brainstorming. But that won’t be until well after the war to free Cattia. Just before you’re about to go to war is the absolute WORST time to go introducing new weapons or auxiliary equipment. Everything you take to war with you has to be state of the art (Que Inigo Montoya saying”I do not think that word means what you think it means.”) i.e. nothing experimental, everything absolutely tried-and-true and off-the-shelf technology. People think “state of the art means something super and bleeding edge but all it really means is everything is well proven and mature technology. Yes, the 3rd Reich used “wonder weapons” which were in many cases experimental; but that was their backs were to the wall and they really had no choice. They had to try and come up with something which would be a force multiplier and help them if not to win then at least to have more favorable terms after surrender.
i know it’s a year to late…
but the “Mark 14 Torpedo.” WWII’s cutting edge , state of the art , do all weapon.. that was never tried or
tested (correctly) an when it failed (most of the way in WWII) it was the operators fault.!